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Why did Mid Atlantic have a flow thru and not the other wholly ownes?
 
Because Mid-Atlantic sued ALPA, US Airways, America West Holdings, and Bedford (wexford capital?).

All we get from our 'weak sister' ALPA MEC is that there was no flow through agreement and ALPA National does not want to pay for litigation that the association feels will not be productive. The fact that Stanley is chair of the merger and flow through committee probably does not help.
 
Why did Mid Atlantic have a flow thru and not the other wholly ownes?

MDA was not a wholly-owned carrier. It was, and still is (although without personnel or equipment), a division of US Airways Inc.
 
I think if you look up the legal definition of a subsidiary, Airways is in a grey area with Piedmont and Psa. The difference between Mid Atlantic an PSA/piedmont is minuscule.
 
There was one BIG difference, MDA Operated on the USAirways Certificate while Piedmont and PSA operate on their own certificates.
 
I think if you look up the legal definition of a subsidiary, Airways is in a grey area with Piedmont and Psa. The difference between Mid Atlantic an PSA/piedmont is minuscule.

You don't know what your talking about. Mid-Atlantic was flying the 170's on the USAirways mainline operating certificate, and the pilots where on the USAirways seniority list. PDT and PSA have their own operating certificates and seniority lists. Mid-Atlantic was going to be a wholly owned but because of certificate problems with the FAA it never happenned. Ask your reps about the history of Mid-Atlantic, it should clear up your confusion.
 
I think if you look up the legal definition of a subsidiary, Airways is in a grey area with Piedmont and Psa. The difference between Mid Atlantic an PSA/piedmont is minuscule.

Actually, that's incorrect.

A good way to see the status of MDT in the US Airways Group corporate scheme is to see it the exact same way as Metrojet. The operation of MDT is almost identical in every respect to Metrojet, which no one ever thought of as really separate from mainline. Metrojet operated under the mainline certificate, as did MDT. The pilot contracts were different at both MDT and Metrojet, but there was never any question that Metrojet pilots were included on the mainline seniority list, and the MDT pilots were in the exact same status.

PDT and PSA are actually totally separate carriers from mainline in the eyes of the FAA. Their pilots are represented by separate MEC's (as they were even when mainline pilots were represented by ALPA.) Metrojet, MDT and mainline pilots (at the time) were all represented by one ALPA MEC.
 
Good info NYCBusdriver. Other interesting facts:

- MDA was shutdown initially to rewrite the FOM since it was to fly under the mainline operating certificate.

- MDA pilots had jumpseat IVR. In a meeting with ALPA when we were going to walk out of training over health insurance, Bill Pollack stated that MDA was the "170 division" like we had the "737 division". So MDA got jumpseat IVR. He must had a different opinion later.

- In the end the Philly Chief Pilot was the MDA Chief Pilot.

- MDA pilots were elected to position on the Philly ALPA LEC.

MDA was a pretend regional to allow the company to get rid of mainline employees in bigger cities like Houston while maintaining reasonable lift. All the unions let the company get away with it. Thus the MDA lawsuit.
 

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