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[FWAAA]

I agree that US has its major issues. My whole question started with this thread when someone said that a Fortune 250 travel manager told his people to avoid US at all costs due to "ancillary fees", most of which can be found on every other legacy carrier (for non elites), just like US. The only addition would be the extra, "deal breaking" $2.

Does US allow free same day standby on nonrefundable discount fares? My preferred airline (AA) does.

Additionally, WN doesn't charge change fees, even on cheap refundable tickets.

 

[aredeeyou22]

That's it...misstate my answers, take parts of one and parts of another to cobble together answers, keep changing the question, sliding around facts.

So show me where I said what you claim - give the quote - or apologize.

Jim

Wow. Sorry to offend you. Just looking to have a lively discussion here, didn't mean to upset the status quo.

In reply #60, you state (bolding is mine):

"...it's impossible to say that one absolutely has higher average yield than the other. While I'm sure US has the numbers for PHL and CO for EWR, those numbers aren't reported. Now one could speculate that the NYC market has better average yield than PHL,..."

Fine.

Clue states, in reply # 81 (bolding is mine):

"To your point about the number of people who are willing to pay it, it's instructive to note that UA used to run widebodies in the pre-PS days. They cut capacity while upgrading the service, and seem to have been so successful (if we are going to toss FT around as a yardstick) that there are UA people heading over to EWR to take CO because they won't pay the (relatively) high UA PS fares. Sure seems like it's working.

As for something like a premium service to PHX? Never happen. Demand is not there and the yields for coach are dog (thanks to LUV)."

I then simply questioned him as to how he knows this, when you told us that airlines don't separate the data. Since you know way more on the subject than I ever will, I asked him how he knew this. Simple as that.

If you'd rather not take part in a discussion with me rather than just call me stupid, fine. Hit ignore. Oh, and since I don't know you, I don't need an apology.

 

[aredeeyou22]

Does US allow free same day standby on nonrefundable discount fares? My preferred airline (AA) does.

Additionally, WN doesn't charge change fees, even on cheap refundable tickets.

According to their website, US offers no charge for standby to their elite passengers.

That is a great benefit of AA, where some airlines charge a fee, some don't let you standby at all on the cheapest fares, etc... They all differ.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Wow. Sorry to offend you.

As you'll notice, my reply in post #60 refers specifically your question about NYC and PHL, CO @ EWR and US @ PHL. Yet you used that answer after your questions had morphed to include CLT & PHX, from revenue to yield. It's one of your favorite tricks - keep asking different questions then claim that answer 1 is a silly answer to question 10. I'll admit, you're quite adept at this verbal sleight of hand, but it's nothing more than taking answers out of context to "prove" your point. Pleading that you "only want a lively discussion here" is tripe - you want to prove wrong any view but your own and will use whatever trick is necessary to do it.

Jim

 

[BoeingBoy]

According to their website, US offers no charge for standby to their elite passengers.

The verbal trickery again. The question asked about "same day standby" on US and you said US did according to the website - omitting the little fact that US only allows earlier same day standby (clearly specified on the website you referenced) while others allow earlier or later same day standby. Claiming equal benefits when they are clearly not.

Jim

 

[tadjr]

Claiming equal benefits when they are clearly not.

US allows standby for an earlier flight same day for $50 for a nonrefundable ticket and no charge for a refundable ticket or any Preferred member and traveling companions in the same record.

I dont believe WN allows ANY standby on same day unless you already have a higher priced ticket or pay up to go at todays price, correct?

Again, some airlines rules are different than others.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Take a look at the post aredeeyou was responding to:

"Does US allow free same day standby on nonrefundable discount fares? My preferred airline (AA) does."

Whether WN does or not is not relevant to the question that aredeeyou was responding to. aredeeyou's response was that US offered the same benefit. However, US only allows earlier standby whereas AA offers earlier or later standby - not the same benefit at all.

Jim

 

[tadjr]

That is a great benefit of AA, where some airlines charge a fee, some don't let you standby at all on the cheapest fares, etc... They all differ.

Take a look at aredeeyou's post. He states THEY ALL DIFFER.
Sorry, just thought I was adding to the conversation by showing another difference. :down: I'll shut up now and let you guys continue to bicker.

 

[aredeeyou22]

That is a great benefit of AA, where some airlines charge a fee, some don't let you standby at all on the cheapest fares, etc... They all differ.

Take a look at aredeeyou's post. He states THEY ALL DIFFER.
Sorry, just thought I was adding to the conversation by showing another difference. :down: I'll shut up now and let you guys continue to bicker.

Thank you for reading the whole post, and not twisting things. It is truly refreshing.

 

[Richard]

OK I think this one has gone far enough off topic to close it down.