American Airlines is set to resume contract negotiations with pilots

[strikeforce]

It's interesting you would mention the 737. Last year our 737 manager and a couple of TWU reps participated, along with other airlines and MRO's, in a Boeing TOPICS program (Technical Operations Performance Improvement and Cost Solutions). In order to compare maintenance cost information it was necessary to synchronize all the different reporting methods. That accomplished, the results indicated that AA's costs were average compared to the group with one exception. AA's turn times were better than their competitors. This is only a small segment of overall maintenance costs and the big picture is hidden from view for obvious reasons.



Yes, it's scary that the TWU has never mentioned the TOPICS program results nor made any other effort to benchmark competitors.
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It's not scary, it's part of the game plan with AA. Why doesn't the TWU mention anything that might benefit the membership??? maybe because it will anger management???

Anybody that believes that the TWU doesn't have information regarding cost outs for maintenance, fleet, facilities and any other work group is mistaken, the organization participates in numerous meetings with management, so they must know....just ask them. Gee, I wonder why they don't provide that info to the membership.....maybe because we'll uncover some beneficial information that WE can use against AA??

 

[Birdman]

Gee, I wonder why they don't provide that info to the membership.....maybe because we'll uncover some beneficial information that WE can use against AA??

Ditto!

 

[Overspeed]

The Int'l gives them the other airline cost outs. The Presidents don't give it to you or explain it because it either undermines their position and what they have been telling you or they don't understand it. The TWU does have people who get this information but people like Bob, Ken, Chuck, Gary, his other brother Gary, and JR don't want to let you know.

You should be busting down their office doors to get that info brought forward at you membership meetings. The problem is not all the Int'l, it's the local leadership.

 

[eolesen]

It's not scary, it's part of the game plan with AA. Why doesn't the TWU mention anything that might benefit the membership??? maybe because it will anger management???

Anybody that believes that the TWU doesn't have information regarding cost outs for maintenance, fleet, facilities and any other work group is mistaken, the organization participates in numerous meetings with management, so they must know....just ask them. Gee, I wonder why they don't provide that info to the membership.....maybe because we'll uncover some beneficial information that WE can use against AA??

The cynic in me says the Intl can't share the cost out data because it shows the company isn't just making up the lower cost of outsourcing...

 

[Birdman]

The Int'l gives them the other airline cost outs. The Presidents don't give it to you or explain it because it either undermines their position and what they have been telling you or they don't understand it. The TWU does have people who get this information but people like Bob, Ken, Chuck, Gary, his other brother Gary, and JR don't want to let you know.

You should be busting down their office doors to get that info brought forward at you membership meetings. The problem is not all the Int'l, it's the local leadership.

The Int'l has it and the local officers have it but the membership that pays for the information doesn't have it , and you know they all have it. Sounds like bologna. Bob, during one of your breaks from the intense secret informal negotiations, can you confirm or deny these allegations?

 

[strikeforce]

The Int'l gives them the other airline cost outs. The Presidents don't give it to you or explain it because it either undermines their position and what they have been telling you or they don't understand it. The TWU does have people who get this information but people like Bob, Ken, Chuck, Gary, his other brother Gary, and JR don't want to let you know.

You should be busting down their office doors to get that info brought forward at you membership meetings. The problem is not all the Int'l, it's the local leadership.

Well, it's about time someone admits the TWU withholds info from the membership! Just another reason to get rid of them!

You forgot Gilboy, Luis, Woodward, Videtich, Gless, and Little.....why did you exclude these guys??? it's not like they're feed US info!

WE should be busting down every TWU door, and throwing the bums out!

 

[Kev3188]

Well, it's about time someone admits the TWU withholds info from the membership! Just another reason to get rid of them!

You forgot Gilboy, Luis, Woodward, Videtich, Gless, and Little.....why did you exclude these guys??? it's not like they're feed US info!

WE should be busting down every TWU door, and throwing the bums out!

You absolutely should.

Too bad too many are either complacent, have IGM syndrome, or have bought into the I'm-just-lucky-to-have-a-job mindset. Until that changes-everywhere, not just at AA- you'll be stuck in the same flat spin you're in now...