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[robbedagain]

if not on the 17th would you agree may be on the 18th or 19th at latest? I do agree that NWA isplaying Russian Roulette with their unions instead of negogiations as per federal law

 

[local 12 proud]

Can you say EAL?

we can only hope NWA will sink with the rest who have tried to destroy labor in this country!

 

[luvn737s]

ON AN INBOX SOMEWHERE IN EGAN, MN...

Dear Mr. Steenland,
I understand that NWA is in desperate need of wage reductions. Well, I am all about wage reductions. Count me in. I would like to recommend that my wages be cut to $12.00 per hour. Don't consider that some kind of hard figure mind you. I am sure that there is some hard working NWA executive on a 52' sloop in the Caymans who has a much better handle on the price target that NWA needs to be competitive. And I am all about competitive. Since I am sure you are sensitive to the type of work environment that exists in an airline, and how some of my co-workers might not understand or appreciate my proactive stance in regards to wage cuts, I ask that you keep this little correspondance just between us.

Sincerely,

Playtheodds

snicker snicker

 

[robbedagain]

cool post thereluvn737! it pretty much speaks the truth about pto and all of the scabs at nwa

 

[upsilon]

...I do agree that NWA isplaying Russian Roulette with their unions instead of negogiations as per federal law

Hey, robbedagain, didn't you guys at US learn twice that "federal law" in BK is the "law" of the judge of the Federal Court?

 

[PlayTheOdds]

They played a damn good game of chess with AMFA, I doubt they will throw it all away on Jan 17th.

Do you think NWA just might be pushing for this strike? Just what if NEWCO is actually a company already set up to go into operation? All that would be required to put it into operation would be a pilot’s strike? What are the chances of the International pilots actually striking? Maybe they will, I guess they could go work for AA.

What a hell of a move, two unions busted in a matter of months.

 

[robbedagain]

only the folks in the hubs voted for the contract. all of us in the 26 outline cities turned it down but were ousted due to the hub folks voting for it. and I think it was3 times not twice

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Do you think NWA just might be pushing for this strike? Just what if NEWCO is actually a company already set up to go into operation? All that would be required to put it into operation would be a pilot’s strike? What are the chances of the International pilots actually striking? Maybe they will, I guess they could go work for AA.

What a hell of a move, two unions busted in a matter of months.

Just another of your posts that leaves no doubt as to your extreme lack of knowledge.

"already set up to go into operation"

Sure, NWA has already trained thousands of pilots,FAs, and ground personnel to take over next week. Hid all of it from the public at large, not to mention those who were looking out for this sort of thing.

You go right on believing.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Just throwing possibilities out there thats all. It seems to me that NWA could care less if they struck. AMFA was blindsided, who knows whats next. You union guys seem to move before thinking.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Just throwing possibilities out there thats all. It seems to me that NWA could care less if they struck. AMFA was blindsided, who knows whats next. You union guys seem to move before thinking.

Yea, more nonsense. I seem to remember showing rather clearly that there was advance knowledge of the replacement training/hiring.

Its not really suprising someone like you would use the term "blindsided" to describe it, hell you seem to think its a possibility NWA has NEWCO staffed and ready to go.

 

[upsilon]

"The RLA and other labor laws are all stacked against organized labor. Wildcating can bankrupt a union. Unless of course there is a "Grass Roots" effort that springs up to challenge management and Unions.
"From the '50's up through the '70's the coals fields were often disrupted by wildcat strikes. These "Roving Pickets" as they became known sprang up dispite the UMW of A's efforts to curb them. They were the primary vehicle for social justice in Appalachia."

I lived in the western VA/southern WV/eastern KY area when during WW2 John L Lewis threatened a coal strike. Yes, later there were Roving Pickets. But now the UMW is not a factor and non-union mined coal (both strip and deep-mined is the standard. When did anyone last hear of, much less worry about, a "coal strike"?

.."Roving Pickets"... could be an effective tool in the struggle against NWA. Imagine 200 pickets ..at GRR... block the entrance to the airport....hundreds delayed and misconnect.
"The pickets at worst get a disorderly conduct charge and a small fine. Individual work groups call.. sick…disrupting operations. The F/A's could implement CHAOS as well."
"The key would be to never discuss these events as a union. ...It has to appear to be a Grass Roots effort. The disruptions would drive NWA to the table and no strike would be needed. Curious as to your thoughts on this type of strategy."

Piney Bob, you didn't ask MY thoughts; but you'll get them anyway. I suggest you stick to being a Frequent Flyer. In this day and age, how in the world do you think such a coordinated effort could possibly be concealed? In the '50s yes - with untapped phones and word o'mouth, it was done; but it accomplished nothing lasting. It sure did not bring "social justice [whatever that means] to Appalachia.

With modern technology and the total reliance on track able and traceable communications, it would take all of a few hours to ID the leaders. And remember, NW as a company, its employees, the unions and its leaders representing them are under the direct supervision of the BK court.

But if you want to fantasize based on events of over 50 years ago, be my guest. I experienced them back then; but I moved on to a more enlightened time.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

PineyBob you have the right idea but this brainwashed bunch will never see it. If their own pet-pee unions don't/can't come up with it its the wrong route to take. They think "withholding their skills" in a trade that anyone can do is sufficient.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

PineyBob you have the right idea but this brainwashed bunch will never see it. If their own pet-pee unions don't/can't come up with it its the wrong route to take. They think "withholding their skills" in a trade that anyone can do is sufficient.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

PineyBob you have the right idea but this brainwashed bunch will never see it. If their own pet-pee unions don't/can't come up with it its the wrong route to take. They think "withholding their skills" in a trade that anyone can do is sufficient.

"in a trade that anyone can do"


Funny, how you couldn't.

It took a desperate airline to bring you to the majors, otherwise you'd still be babbling to yourself in Mobile.

BTW saw your other post in the adjoining thread where you accuse Line AMTs of being nothing but parts changers. If you're still trying to assure the readers of this forum you know next to nothing about aircraft maintenance or the industry as a whole, you can relax. MESSAGE RECEIVED.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

Thirdseat, have you ever worked line? What is difficult about it? Come on there Third please let me know what is difficult about this job? Either I am that good or you guys suck so much that you make this job difficult. Let me tell you what is difficult about this job, that would be waking up and driving here and getting on that stupid bus. I hate that employee bus with a passion. So do tell us Thirdseat, what do you guys find so difficult about this job? Do give us some specifics.