April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Bill Brasky]

So the court did not say.

"THE COURT: Well, it's a precondition to the integration that's contemplated by this merger."

Or

THE COURT: All right. And it sounds like no one in the Arizona litigation disputes the proposition that it is important to get a timely answer as quickly as possible, that is to the merits of that litigation, both for the parties -- those parties to be able to put the matter behind them and also that everyone understands that that issue needs to be resolved before integration in this merger would be addressed.

What he doesn't say is that anything has to include the Nic. He says that for an "integration", presumably of the pilot groups, it needs to be answered, not for the merger of the two companies.

He also did NOT say which side would prevail, but according to Judge Silver and the Ninth Circuit USAPA already has.

 

[3dtv]

What he doesn't say is that anything has to include the Nic. He says that for an "integration", presumably of the pilot groups, it needs to be answered, not for the merger of the two companies.

He also did NOT say which side would prevail, but according to Judge Silver and the Ninth Circuit USAPA already has.

Saying it must be addressed before the integration in the merger is NOT the same as before the merger itself.

The merger will occur.

The SLI will be done by MOU guidance. About 24 months.

Nothing requires a list before the AA merger. Also, Judge Silver clearly states USAPA is free to provide any list it deems appropriate.

 

[Pi brat]

Who sends a BK attorney to argue a seniority issue?? And one that's not familiar with the specifics of the case.

That really impressed the judge (and UCC and AMR attorneys). Typical usapa, load, fire and never aim.

Does usapa want to move this along or not?

Uhhh, someone that is appearing in bankruptcy court? The judge wasn't familiar either, he said it had been going on for 13 years.

They agreed to let Judge Silver hear it, I think they want to move it along.

 

[Pi brat]

Did I miss all the praise from westies for USAPA agreeing to let Judge Silver hear the case? Seems like you web board Perry Masons would be thrilled about that. Should speed things right along, maybe knock it down under 24 months unless it is dismissed.

 

[Pi brat]

This quote from that lawyer is really a strong indication that no one in that court room is at all familiar with the case (nor need they be.)

13 years? That would put the US/AW merger's start in the year 2000....even before the the attack on the World Trade Center and

It was the judge that said that.

 

[Portly Dorman]

Uhhh, someone that is appearing in bankruptcy court? The judge wasn't familiar either, he said it had been going on for 13 years.

They agreed to let Judge Silver hear it, I think they want to move it along.

You win. File in a BK court on the thread of hope that the west will try to block the merger. Where was Poindexter??

98% voted yes to end this nightmare, usapa provide ZERO benefit for almost half of the union members. CB&L's intentionally written to bias the east over the west, the founders PROMISING an industry leading, no standard, no cost neutral contract in 90 days. Where is it boys?? Who wants this over and who wants to drag it out for ever?

And keep workin' on that 3rd wire, practice makes perfect.

 

[Portly Dorman]

I want to be in the hearing when you explain why the 3 member panel should disregard a previous arbitration. Let me know in advance the number in your party, I'll bring the popcorn... B)

You see, this previous arbitration was so unfair.... :wacko:

What he doesn't say is that anything has to include the Nic. He says that for an "integration", presumably of the pilot groups, it needs to be answered, not for the merger of the two companies.

He also did NOT say which side would prevail, but according to Judge Silver and the Ninth Circuit USAPA already has.

 

[Pi brat]

You win. File in a BK court on the thread of hope that the west will try to block the merger. Where was Poindexter??

98% voted yes to end this nightmare, usapa provide ZERO benefit for almost half of the union members. CB&L's intentionally written to bias the east over the west, the founders PROMISING an industry leading, no standard, no cost neutral contract in 90 days. Where is it boys?? Who wants this over and who wants to drag it out for ever?

And keep workin' on that 3rd wire, practice makes perfect.

Was there a point in that post?

What about my question? Aren't you happy that USAPA agrees with AOL to assign it to Judge Silver?

And BTW, your avatar makes you look pathetic, not the one you aimed it at.

 

[Portly Dorman]

Was there a point in that post?

What about my question? Aren't you happy that USAPA agrees with AOL to assign it to Judge Silver?

And BTW, your avatar makes you look pathetic, not the one you aimed it at.

I got my point across then. A so called professional sneaking around spying on the evil westies...ooooooo boogie men.

Glad to hear Silver gets the case, maybe it will be expedited.

 

[nycbusdriver]

You mean like the way we selected Nicolau for the America West merger after he arbitrated the Shuttle merger for us?

That was stupid, or arrogant, or both (most likely) on the part of the east Merger Committee.

 

[nycbusdriver]

You have a room full of lawyers that are not familiar with the details of the case. Yet all of them understood ( except usapa) that this case is ripe and needs to be decided by a court quickly. The facts of the case are so simple to understand just a quick read of the case and a phone call ended the fake law suit usapa wanted.

Courts give the plaintiff the edge when filing a law suit. Assuming what is filed is the truth. Usapa even said that it is difficult to get cases dismissed because of that. Yet usapa has now had two law suits dismissed because the facts don't support the case. Usapa filed a false case with the RICO case now this NY case.

Usapa lawyer sounded pathetic begging to go forward and the judge shut him down.

Yeah. That's right, Bozo, after 13 years it should be ripe. Well then, we're talking ripeness in 2020 (which is probably when the DOH fences will come down.)

 

[traderjake]

That was stupid, or arrogant, or both (most likely) on the part of the east Merger Committee.

It was stupid and arrogant to force the East Merger Committe to adopt a DOH position, they knew it wasn't going to happen.

 

[luvthe9]

That was stupid, or arrogant, or both (most likely) on the part of the east Merger Committee.

Remember who you are talking to, a Munn worshipper.

 

[traderjake]

Remember who you are talking, a Munn worshipper. what else would you expect?

Still thinking about that MOU loss I see.

Beaten by Munn, how embarrassing for you.

 

[luvthe9]

Still thinking about that MOU loss I see.

Beaten by Munn, how embarrassing for you.

Still thinking how your CLT boys crushed your little recall. Now you run along Chippy's callng you.