April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Claxon]

west pilots, your company agrees with you, you are in a class by yourself. (on your own vs East).

If any labor group has their company agree with them in court, unsolicited, it should be a big red flag for youse guys.


"Plaintiffs have filed a motion pursuant to Rules 23(a) and 23((1)(A) of the
Federal Rules of Civil Procedure seeking certification of the following class: “All pilots who are on the America West seniority list currently incorporated into the West Pilot’s collective bargaining agreement.” (Motion for Class Certification (Doc. No. 11), at
p. 3:15-17 (page citation refers to pagination in plaintiffs’ motion and not to the
pagination of the corresponding ECF filing).)
Although defendant US Airways, Inc. (“US Airways&rdquo😉 does not necessarily agree
with all of plaintiffs’ arguments, it does agree that plaintiffs’ motion satisfies the
requirements of Rules 23(a) and 23((1)(a).
Accordingly, US Airways respectfully submits that plaintiffs’ motion should be
granted.
Dated: April 11, 2013. O’Melveny & Myers LLP
By: /s/Robert A. Siegel
Robert A. Siegel (pro hac vice)
Chris A. Hollinger (pro hac vice)
400 South Hope Street, Suite 1500
Los Angeles, California 90071-2899
US Airways, Inc.
Karen Gillen, State Bar No. 018008
111 W. Rio Salado Parkway
Tempe, AZ 85281
Attorneys for Defendant

 

[Claxon]

What does spelling have to do with our petition? So stupid could it be that the judge issued orders on multiple items in the same order?

We will just see who changes their format for the next filing to determine which party the jusge was talking about.

The west pilot arrogant attitude, combined with the rule of law, caused the Judge to issue his order after your west pilot weekend "legal experts" filed the following under 28j Jacobs name.


"I, Andrew S. Jacob, declare the following to be true based upon my personal
knowledge and information under penalty of perjury pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1746:

1. The Bankruptcy Court in the Southern District of New York held a hearing on
April 3, 2013, to determine whether to dismiss an adversary proceeding filed there by
Defendant US Airline Pilots Association (“USAPA&rdquo😉 that sought to enjoin these
proceedings.

2. A certified copy of the transcript of that hearing is attached as Exhibit “A” to
Plaintiffs’ Motion for Entry of Default Judgment by the Court Pursuant to Rule 55( (2).

3. USAPA is neither an infant or incompetent person, nor an individual in
military service.

West pilots, your legal experts thought they were spiking the football when they authored line three. The touchdown they thought they had was called back for your illegal procedure, offside, personal foul and not enough men with minds on the field.

 

[Claxon]

The legal side of the west pilots reps screwed up, at least the west pilots media department has done their job right (sarcasm)..........er oh never mind.

 

[end_of_alpa]

The legal side of the west pilots reps screwed up, at least the west pilots media department has done their job right (sarcasm)..........er oh never mind.

And AwFOL wonders WHY USAPA is suiing them? No matter, the West posters are right about one thing. According to Judge Silver:

"Pursuant to the Court’s resolution of the motions for summary judgment,

IT IS ORDERED Counts I and III of the complaint are dismissed and judgment is

entered in favor of US Airline Pilots Association on Count II of the complaint. US Airline

Pilots Association’s seniority proposal does not breach its duty of fair representation

provided it is supported by a legitimate union purpose.


DATED this 11th day of October, 2012.

 

[Ames]

It's obvious that my once per week visit to this forum is a total waste of time.

Claxon(hole): Still an idiot. Still grabbing as straws. I wonder what you will say when the Nic list is (soon) rammed firmly up your ass. You too, Jamie. Looking forward to it.

 

[Zone5]

American Airlines adding flights to more cities from Los Angeles by end of year

“Our hub in Los Angeles will serve a key role in international routes, particularly as a gateway to Asian destinations,” American’s chief commercial officer, Virasb Vahidi, said in an interview. American and partner airlines, including Japan Airlines and Cathay Pacific, fly to Asia from Los Angeles International.

What! How can this be? No mention of "Fortress Phoenix" expansion? But, but, but....Oh, never mind. I'm sure the big "announcement" heralding those 330's flying out of PHX, will be made any day now. Maybe "soon" is the correct description of the timing, sort of like the AOL definition of when the NIC will be arriving......"soon". Right.


seajay

 

[Bill Brasky]

It's obvious that my once per week visit to this forum is a total waste of time.

Claxon(hole): Still an idiot. Still grabbing as straws. I wonder what you will say when the Nic list is (soon) rammed firmly up your ass. You too, Jamie. Looking forward to it.

Don't hold your breath....Oh, wait, you ARE holding your breath? That explains the obvious signs of hypoxia, aggravation and delirium.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

It's obvious that my once per week visit to this forum is a total waste of time.

Claxon(hole): Still an idiot. Still grabbing as straws. I wonder what you will say when the Nic list is (soon) rammed firmly up your ass. You too, Jamie. Looking forward to it.

We are sure you are, just like the sled dog in the back of the pack!
The Nicolau Seniority List Was Issued on May 3, 2007 that was , you can go to cactuspilot.com and watch that little counter,

 

[nycbusdriver]

I've been gone for awhile, is the west still hoping for the NIC?

It's already in effect. Just ask them.

 

[nycbusdriver]

I'm afraid you guys are conviently forgeting where the court warned you that any list you create will be held up against the nic.

Well, the Nicolau abomination is so egregiously unfair that it would be a good thing that USAPAs list would be held up against it.

In a court of law where the judge actually lets the jury hear all the facts of the case, including case law and the RLA, there is no way the Nicolau would withstand the scrutiny.

Even the president of the company alluded to the unfairness when he called the Nicolau obscenity a "Lottery Ticket." Talk about a windfall!

 

[Claxon]

It's already in effect. Just ask them.

True. Cleardirect appears to actually be a USAPA double agent. He has piped so much false hope and lies to the west pilots. They actually bought his story and spent themselves dry.
I have heard the Leonidas donor list is fabricated also. I would not believe one fact or figure they publish.

 

[nic4us]

Well, the Nicolau abomination is so egregiously unfair that it would be a good thing that USAPAs list would be held up against it.

In a court of law where the judge actually lets the jury hear all the facts of the case, including case law and the RLA, there is no way the Nicolau would withstand the scrutiny.

An arbitrated award is "powerfull evidence of a fair outcome".

You got more than you deserved in the Nic, and no court in the country will try to rehash the arbitration.

Further, post merger economics is just more evidence of what has been stolen from the West and will do nicely toward the damages total.

But speaking of abominations.....what exactly has the scab union done for a full 1/3 of the class and craft it owes a duty of fair representation?

Bottom line....usapa is going away, but the Nic is here to stay.

 

[nycbusdriver]

An arbitrated award is "powerfull evidence of a fair outcome".

You got more than you deserved in the Nic, and no court in the country will try to rehash the arbitration.

Further, post merger economics is just more evidence of what has been stolen from the West and will do nicely toward the damages total.

But speaking of abominations.....what exactly has the scab union done for a full 1/3 of the class and craft it owes a duty of fair representation?

Bottom line....usapa is going away, but the Nic is here to stay.

Well, even the deluded, toking crowd can be partially right. (I strongly suggest that you steer clear of drug tests.)

USAPA is going away. Ho hum.

 

[end_of_alpa]

It's obvious that my once per week visit to this forum is a total waste of time.

Claxon(hole): Still an idiot. Still grabbing as straws. I wonder what you will say when the Nic list is (soon) rammed firmly up your ass. You too, Jamie. Looking forward to it.

Keep tilting at windmills Ames.

 

[end_of_alpa]

An arbitrated award is "powerfull evidence of a fair outcome".

You got more than you deserved in the Nic, and no court in the country will try to rehash the arbitration.

Further, post merger economics is just more evidence of what has been stolen from the West and will do nicely toward the damages total.

But speaking of abominations.....what exactly has the scab union done for a full 1/3 of the class and craft it owes a duty of fair representation?

Bottom line....usapa is going away, but the Nic is here to stay.

Not according to Judge Silvers JUDGEMENT, or Document 194.
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/Declatory_Relief/Doc194_Order.pdf