April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Walmartgreeter]

You don't get to vote on the seniority list. That isn't was final and binding arbitrations are for.

You are getting ahead of yourself Res, don't confuse our current process (after the POR) that you approved with what did not happen in the past.

Of course all pilots got a vote on any East/West agreement via LOA 96, had one actually occured. Even if the MEC/BPR accepted the ruling of that pitiful, demented, angry old man Nic, the members still get a vote. Even now. A JNC with all the t's crossed and i's dotted would have to go before the members, including a list that combined the two of us. Did not happen, will not happen now..that ship has sailed.

Once we get to the POR, we indeed are locked into a result, either by agreement of the TWO unions or by arbitration. No more LOA 96.

Thanks for your support and agreement on a new process, and better moneys and working conditions for us all.

Res, I have to go back out later tomorrow and fly my first 4 day trip for April. Got to run, have a fun week here. Hope you figure it all out.

Greeter

 

[Claxon]

Man!!! Why does USAPA always get stuck with the senile, incompetent Judges?!!! Don't they know they're the most "senior" pilot group in the universe? Congrats on pissing away another 4 million dollars morons. Pretty sure you were adequately warned this would happen. But then again, when did stern warnings from credible sources EVER change your direction? Uh...never? Get used to it. The big smack down awaits. This latest embarrassment is a mere drop in the bucket foreshadowing your fake unions future.

Res, take the polygraph before you submit your posts.
You and Horner are telling whoppers. Louis Freeh would not be happy.

 

[dca319]

Res, I actually agree with you on the PIC. Waste of time. But why is that process, actually voted on by everyone but only paid by the East....any less fruitful than your antics in the courts, the latest being the most ridiculous? 8 years apart, almost 6 chasing Nic with Judge after Judge after Court telling you the NIC was not going to be used. And now finally, Kirby..."no."

We have tilted at windmills via the PIC, you via the NIC. Brothers in arms.

Greeter

Those antics you speak of have kept us on LoA93 and unable to cram DoH down their throats with our majority.

 

[dca319]

Relax Frances. It will probably go Nic-type methodology of integration for all pilots with a snapshot sometime later this year. Just don't get caught out on a voluntary furlough.

No, it won't. Our snapshot will roll all the way back to 2005.

 

[Claxon]

Truth hurts, doesn't it, jagoff?

West pilot quote above.

 

[Claxon]

Your view of fairness is just plain fcuked. Relative seniority is fair. DOH places all of your formerly furloughed pilots above most of our captains. I am sick of pointing that out so you can take your righteous anger and shove it up your ass.

You are a fool for supporting your angry fo's. Everyone knows it but you. My guess is that you support them more because you are afraid of them than that you are trying to do the right thing.

Pussies such as yourself have no business being captains.

america west pilot quote above.

 

[Claxon]

Guaranteed?

Really has the case been dismissed? Has usapa even responded yet? Oh that's right that asked for another delay. If usapa is so right and it is "guaranteed why not let the court make the final ruling?

Capt G., Masking a question that is a lecture, Kirby busted you.

 

[Claxon]

Ferguson and koontz are your angry f/o's. Keep writing the checks out.

 

[Claxon]

What is the difference between Eric Ferguson and an airbus engine. Ferguson uses more oil in his hair.

 

[Phoenix]

98%

 

[Keroseneuser]

No, it won't. Our snapshot will roll all the way back to 2005.

Well as it pertains to the West pilot list I would have to agree with you, since your list in almost identical to what it was in 2005 now. I think you are going to have a problem getting any traction for that 2005 thing for the east and the APA though.


No I think Doug worded the MOU the way he worded it specifically to make this 7 year problem go away and to keep as many of the NEW AA's pilot group as happy as possible. If it goes 3 way he gets 13000 ish happy pilots and 1500 ish cheesed off pilots. Anything other than a 3 way and his chances of profiting from the combined synergies of the new AA go down dramatically. No it wont be DOH, but it wont be the NIC either.

Follow the money.

 

[Res Judicata]

98%

MOU between AMR, APA, USAPA, US Airways approved by USAPA 75%. Your point? I guess I missed "the west pilots" as a named party to the MOU.

 

[mrbreeze]

Be sure to bring your dictionary to court and the next seniority arbitration because apparently the arbiters of the last four didn't have one.

Again, Dan.....your opinion of the 4 arbitrations doesn't hold water and it suks to see what a traitor you are to your own past.

Shuttle/USAir.......150 former Eastern pilots slotted into the system. Small number and all of them gave up their Eastern number. No big impact overall, and I believe they deserved credit for their time at Eastern.

Frontier/Republic......we all know how that has gone. No agreement and Frontier is being spun off.

NW/Delta.......Most pilots are relatively close in longevity and age, so no big conflict there, for the most part.

And then we have AWA/AAA......such a disparity that there is no fukin way this is fair and will never work out......a true test for your "4 successful" arbitrations. BS!!!

So, your theory is being tested with our current situation.

IMHO, you keep making a fool of yourself when you proclaim the "all mighty success of the last 4 arbitrations"

breeze

 

[traderjake]

So, your theory is being tested with our current situation.

At least you were able to say one thing that is true.

It s*cks to see what an unethical person you are.

 

[mrbreeze]

At least you said one thing that is true.

It s*cks to see what an unethical person you are.

Normally, I would be offended by that statement, but considering what a sick puppy you are, it's not taken too hard.

You really haven't had your theory tested until the AWA/AAA arbitration, which is way out of bounds.....otherwise, it would not have caused this lengthy delay in SLI. So, your theory doesn't necessarily mean squat, does it? If your theory was correct, it would be a slam dunk in ALL situations, right? But that's not the way it's working out, eh? I mean, heck, with the AWA/AAA, along with the Frontier/ Republic arbitrations, hell, your batting about 50%, right. So get off this high horse BS......it doesn't hold water.

Also, you don't know me from Adam. Who are you to judge my ethics, you fukin traitor?

breeze