August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Claxon]

My wife drives a luxury import with a sticker price of $70,000. Who cares you are in Intitial A330.

Nice. How much are the monthly lease prices?

 

[cleardirect]

OK, my traitor friend......where did I do any begging? These are facts! If you don't like them maybe you should re-evaluate your position! The bottom line for the west pilots is that they want any new contract that changes where they currently are with Parker, because he has them by the balls. An AWE contract that keeps them at the bottom of the industry and doesn't allow them to do much INTL flying. On top of that, they want the NIC lottery ticket......what the hell, shoot for the moon!. Traitor, their own contract is holding them back....so what do they do? accuse the East for their woes in hope that Judge Silver with cut them some slack. Now, which side of the street would you like to stand on? Bottom line......if the West pilot would have EVER, EVER, considered working out a compromise, gaining a new contract with Parker, and accepting anything at all, other than sticking to the NIC and claiming their magical lottery ticket, they would have been a lot better off than they find themselves today. Yet they stand by their guns and blame USAPA and the East for their woes!

You really are just to stupid to understand.

Usapa negotiates contracts. It is usapa that has refused to negotiate and usapa (east pilots) that have denied the west.

If you east pilots had the integrity to live up to your agreements we ALL would have been better off.

 

[cleardirect]

You question MY logic? All we have heard for years is "binding is binding "the honor your obligations "but you don't want to honor the 190 arbitration. Whiner.

I never said we would not honor it. After the POR the west gets 1/3 of the 190. If someone want s to bid it fine.

What you and the rest of the fools think is that group II will be replaced by group I and west pilots will be forced into that aircraft. Different deal.

The only way a west pilot will fly that plane is in PHL.

 

[cleardirect]

$68,450 to be exact, paid in cash.

Flying is a hobby🙂

Breeze lost me with his opening line. I don't know what difference it makes he's in initial on the A330.

What he thinks is bragging. Like what airplane you fly impresses some people.

 

[nevergiveup]

You really are just to stupid to understand.

Usapa negotiates contracts. It is usapa that has refused to negotiate and usapa (east pilots) that have denied the west.

If you east pilots had the integrity to live up to your agreements we ALL would have been better off.

The whine meter is pegged today! Should have gone for the fence? A bird in the hand? All in the past now. Football next month!

 

[traderjake]

A bird in the hand? All in the past now.

Yep, 5 years wasted on LOA 93 and nothing to show for it.

 

[nevergiveup]

Yep, 5 years wasted on LOA 93 and nothing to show for it.

I fully support protecting the west attrition and PHX base!

 

[Beancounter]

Since it looks like it's bragging time....... My mom and dad just offered to buy me a new Porsche 911 last week. When you're in college it might be ok, but now??? I said I'd rather have a healthy college fund set aside for the kids. Arrrrrrrggghhhhhh!!! This trying to be an independent mature adult thing is killing me.

Bean

 

[traderjake]

I fully support protecting the west attrition and PHX base!

No East and West very soon so enjoy your support while it lasts.

 

[nevergiveup]

Since it looks like it's bragging time....... My mom and dad just offered to buy me a new Porsche 911 last week. When you're in college it might be ok, but now??? I said I'd rather have a healthy college fund set aside for the kids. Arrrrrrrggghhhhhh!!! This trying to be an independent mature adult thing is killing me.

Bean

So your are wiling to let someone else pay for your kid's college?

 

[Graceson]

Since it looks like it's bragging time....... My mom and dad just offered to buy me a new Porsche 911 last week. When you're in college it might be ok, but now??? I said I'd rather have a healthy college fund set aside for the kids. Arrrrrrrggghhhhhh!!! This trying to be an independent mature adult thing is killing me.

Bean

Nice move. A selfless act. I like it. In general, reputable charities for neglected or abused children, exploited women, and disadvantaged elderly are my weaknesses. But I like your priorities here.

 

[nevergiveup]

No East and West very soon so enjoy your support while it lasts.

Very true. I can see APA and USAPA having a new list within 90 days of the effective date. Lots of fencing, similar to those around Lexington.

 

[traderjake]

Very true. I can see APA and USAPA having a new list within 90 days of the effective date. Lots of fencing, similar to those around Lexington.

I can see the courts, the company, and/or APA saying the Nicolau Award is the seniority list soon after the POR date.

 

[mrbreeze]

$68,450 to be exact, paid in cash.

Flying is a hobby🙂

Breeze lost me with his opening line. I don't know what difference it makes he's in initial on the A330.

Sorry, I didn't mean for that to have any relevance.....that's just where I was when I heard about the west contract. It had nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.

 

[cleardirect]

Very true. I can see APA and USAPA having a new list within 90 days of the effective date. Lots of fencing, similar to those around Lexington.

How did that fence work out for the TWA guys?