Waah! Again; you can live with with all that "righteous anger" for as long as you choose, for it is a choice. The truth of the larger world is that no one else is going to care. I'll be long free of the airline equation in the not-too-distant-future, but many of you will hopefully see a lot of working years left at what will (at least begin) as the world's largest airline. A bit of reasonable perspective's strongly suggested...That's all. From a purely selfish viewpoint, it means nothing to me, nor can you expect grand gushings of sympathy from those you'll be flying with in the future. "Hey!...Anyone know who these sullen, pouting fools are and what their problem is?" is perhaps not the best way you might wish to present yourselves....Just sayin....
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Waah! Again; you can live with with all that "righteous anger" for as long as you choose, for it is a choice. The truth of the larger world is that no one else is going to care. I'll be long free of the airline equation in the not-too-distant-future, but many of you will hopefully see a lot of working years left at what will (at least begin) as the world's largest airline. A bit of reasonable perspective's strongly suggested...That's all. From a purely selfish viewpoint, it means nothing to me, nor can you expect grand gushings of sympathy from those you'll be flying with in the future. "Hey!...Anyone know who these sullen, pouting fools are and what their problem is?" is perhaps not the best way you might wish to present yourselves....Just sayin....
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I, for one will get over it and move on. Others? I'm not so sure. That's pretty much it in a nutshell for me.
That seems the wise course to me for all concerned, however it plays out...and for "Others?"...Well..."at'sa you"(their) "lookout", as Chico would say. 🙂
Outside of any "Unicorns and Rainbows" notions: My sad expectation is that there will be severe conflict with management within 2-3 years tops, likely sooner, and having as many pilots as possible on, if not the proverbial same page, at least within sight, or even walking distance of the same library would help you all greatly.
PS: If it's indeed true that the "Gangnam Style" drunken frat kids are advancing a call sign of "Maverick"...well.. then they're already displaying the utmost possible, complete contempt for all involved pilots. Again..If that's really true..then necessarily consider yourselves as they do = bushes that've just been "marked" on. Be further advised that such "kids", whenever granted any all-time-best-free-for-Christmas/Birthday-Gifts as the world's largest "toy"/airline, will, if the predictable model allows; become far more self-obsessed, arrogant and condescending than you can yet imagine. Get a clue from that as to what the future's likely to hold when it's time for a JCBA to be negotiated/greivances/whatever to be addressed.
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It's like you think that typing it over and over and over and over somehow makes it work out. Kind of like a legal advisor telling you that DOH is a Slam Dunk (you do know that the same legal advisor is now telling ANOTHER labor group the complete opposite, right???).
GTG. Stayed up late shoping real estate in CHS. It's BEAUTIFUL here!!!!
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Wait till the noseeums start chomping on you! Gads, they can be rough. Certain parts of the year they are like a cloud of little teeth!!! Not quite as bad as they get in SAV. Though if you go north around the outer banks of NC you can find the true spawn of Satan....the green headed biting flies!!! If you don't like someone suggest they take a camping trip to Portsmith Island during fly season. 🙂
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Great place. What areas are you looking at? RR
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Agreed, nice areas in the low country. If you have kids in scouts the USS Yorktown has a nice program where the cub scouts can spend the weekend on the ship and sleep in the crew quarters. Kiawah island is really nice but expensive real estate. the section north of Mt Pleasant going north on US 17 has some nice areas also.
Sigh! You seriously need psychiatric care kid.
That's a great program they have there. A lady-friend's youngest nephew did that last year and had a great time, not to mention an eye-opening and fully educational experience.
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The GSP area west of I 85 is where I'd look, easy drive to CLT.
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I found the AMERICA WEST AIRLINE drug trafficking trial fascinating. Patrick Thurston, Vice President of Operations AMERICA WEST, Bob Russell, Chief of Pilots, and Carl Wobser, a captain, all pleaded guilty to multiple counts of narcotics trafficking. They had purchased a DC 6 and embarked upon aT h) Tcareer in the drug trade. Unfortunately for them their plane, which they maxed out electronically, had chronic engine problems which required them to touch down unexpectedly in several countries. This was more than embarrassing since they had not filed flight plans. On one such emergency stop in Aruba, on the way back from Columbia, their plane was found packed with marijuana. There is reason to believe that their intended cargo was cocaine and that after a mix)up they did not wish to fly back empty. Dispite the lofty positions these men held with AMERICA WEST they seemed to have no dificulity getting time off for their drug flights and AMERICA WEST wanted to rehire Russell after his 6 months in the Federal country club.
Twenty percent of the stock of AMERICA WEST was owned by ANSETT AIRLINES of Australia and 55% of ANSETT was held by Sir Peter Ables and Rupert Murdock. We know from Jonathan Kwitney's book THE CRIMES OF PATRIOTS that Burny Houghton, perhaps the key figure in the founding of the CIA drug money laundering bank NUGAN)HAND in Australia, had coffee with Sir Peter Ables the night of his first day in Australia.
I watched Assistant U.S. Attorney James Lacey prosecute both rounds of this case. The three AMERICAN WEST pilots had all plea bargained out. If they did not testify truthfully about the others in the case they would be looking forward to serious time. Lacey prosecutes all the large narcotics cases in Arizona. Because he is the son of Frederic Lacey, the federal judge appointed by the Justice Department to be administrator of the TEAMSTERS UNION, Jim Lacey has unusual clout in the U.S. Attorney's office here. Although Lacey could not deny the pertinence of the information I gave him it was clear that he did not want to know where this case ultimately led. I watched him play patty cake with the defendants when he should have been playing hard ball.
The plot began in July of 1986 when Helmut Bubbel called Thurston from Alaska and arranged a meeting at the ARIZONA BILTMORE RESORT HOTEL with Thurston and the other pilots. Ten days later they met again in Bangkok Thailand to arrange their first cargo. Their original plan was to make their pick up in communist Laos. One doesn't go to the great difficulty to travel to restricted Laos to purchase marijuana or Thai stick as the pilots claimed. Pot is legal in Thailand. One goes to Laos for heroin. Thurston testified that his cut of this first flight was to be one million dollars. When I ran the numbers for Lacey it was obvious that only a heroin cargo would generate this amount of profit. With the DC 6 three or four flights a year would have provided the entire US requirement for heroin.
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Get a life.
Oh I forgot, your Mom won't let you leave the basement.
Oh I forgot, your Mom won't let you leave the basement.
america west pilots could not get hired by other airlines period. They are scum. They flew drugs, flew airplanes drunk, scabbed in Australia. They will now possibly be flying under the banner of American Airlines, I am the messenger.
http://itsyourcreditreport.com/2011/05/11/us-airways-data-breach-pilots-personal-info-leaked/
http://itsyourcreditreport.com/2011/05/11/us-airways-data-breach-pilots-personal-info-leaked/
Coming from the guy that goes nuts any time anyone criticizes him, and then challenges him to some silly aero duel while on his late nite binge posting. You need to get an actual life, try to get your wife and family back... Your posts smell of fear and loathing.
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