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The West is going to help you steal their jobs?

You're right, it's not gonna happen.

Me thinks some people placate their own anger resulting from a perceived theft of their own career progression by protecting folks they have never met and could not care less about... being protective of others looks more dignified than complaining against democracy's progression for merely selfish reasons.
 
Me thinks some people placate their own anger for a perceived theft of their own career progression by protecting folks they have never met and could not care less about... being protective of others looks more dignified than complaining against democracy's progression for merely selfish reasons.

Some people try to misdirect attention from their attempted theft and lack of ethics with psychobabble.
 
Calling superhero Reed Richards. Care to enlighten the west posters on your news yet?
This ought to run them off for a while.
 
Some people try to misdirect attention from their attempted theft and lack of ethics with psychobabble.

Incoherently muttering "thief" every night on an anonymous entertainment board for seven years, that would be psychobable. I pity the 911 operators if you ever discover their quick dial on your phone. :lol:
 
You are barely only required to be wearing briefs to file legal briefs. I am sure both of Mr. Siegal's briefs were full of what he thought was important findings.

True. Part of the reason these dirtbags get no support. Parker screwed it up with his internal e mails. Eff him. And his scumbag lawyers.
 
It's going to the 9th. On US Airways' terms.

Sure it is. On the same terms that got them their merger approval......
Parker is honestly an idiot who needs to be canned. 4 attempts and 4 strike outs. Loser.
There are no terms for these idiots. They act and the DOJ or other air carriers react and merely spit in Parker's face.
Google DUI Doug Parker and see what jumps in your face. How many other corporations can claim that?
Go ahead and back him.
 
Sure it is. On the same terms that got them their merger approval......
Parker is honestly an idiot who needs to be canned. 4 attempts and 4 strike outs. Loser.
There are no terms for these idiots. They act and the DOJ or other air carriers react and merely spit in Parker's face.
Google DUI Doug Parker and see what jumps in your face. How many other corporations can claim that?
Go ahead and back him.

Ah yes, another disgruntled malcontent who getting all pissy because the world is not bowing to their temper tantrum demands.

I suggest you and RR get together and form a support group of whiners to whom the world is just not fair.......

Er...um....I guess you all ready did that when you formed the scab union.
 
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ATTENTION ALL FORMER AWA PILOTS !!!

STALLING & REDIRECTING

Updated 08/22/13


By now many of you have received your denial letter from the company regarding the publication of the Nicolau Award. As you can see by the response, the subject matter of the grievance has been completely avoided by management. Our protest was in regards to publishing the seniority list, ie. Nicolau Award, as agreed to in our current CBA under Section 22. This list should have been distributed to all former AWA Pilots, along with the current West seniority list, that we use under separate CBA’s from the East. There is NO MENTION OR REQUEST for implementation of this list in our filed grievance. Obviously, senior management is stalling and redirecting the subject matter. As has been previously noted, the courts will decide the implementation issue. With the potential of an upcoming merger with American Airlines, we need an accurate and updated Nicolau Seniority List to verify correct data and our placement on THAT list, which is the only official, federally binding arbitrated seniority list for ALL US AIRWAYS PILOTS!
Please refer to Section 22 of our CBA regarding the next step in this grievance process. We will move on to the appeal phase, where we will contest to company’s denial, not only because it is an agreed upon condition of our current CBA, but also, that the company has NOT EVEN ANSWERED THE ORIGINAL GRIEVANCE. Once again, the company needs to PUBLISH AND DISTRIBUTE THE UPDATED ( AS OF JULY 1, 2013 ) NICOLAU SENIORITY LIST.

An appeal letter will be posted on this website within the next 24 hours. Feel free to use this as your response if you so choose, or you may compose your own. Please refer to Section 22, paragraph C.2 for the information required in your appeal letter. In the appeal process, all individual appeal letters will be handled together, as a class of affected pilots, to be decided by an arbitrator. This treatment gives all pilots whose protest were denied a strength in numbers; you will not be singled out.

As individual Pilots, we have 15 days, from receipt of your denial letter, to send in your appeal letters to the Chief Pilot, VP of Labor Relations, and USAPA Grievance Committee. Mailing addresses are listed below. Please send all copies via certified US mail, return receipt requested.

No where in our CBA, does the company get relief from the time limitations set forth in this process. It IS NOT reliant on whether there is a merger taking place or not. There are no time extensions granted to the company “because they are busy”. Failure to act upon these grievances by the company and USAPA, in the allotted contractual time frame, is grounds for a DFR lawsuit.

And more to that point, it is disturbing to note that to our knowledge, our grievance committee has not contacted, via letter, text or voice, any pilot who has filed this grievance. By doing nothing, they have left protesting pilots stranded. A failure to represent protesting pilots is another possible avenue for DFR litigation against both the company and USAPA, if they continue to fail to follow the contractual process.

Please check back on the nicisthenic.com within 24 hours for a useable appeal letter.

YOUR CAREERS MAY DEPEND ON IT !
 
Hey S for Bs, look again. I was on this thread when you posted on the other. Look at the time of my reply to your post. THAT's when I saw and responded to you.

Over and over again when I give a west poster the benefit of the doubt you prove you didn't deserve it. You are just as big an ahole and idiot as clear, nic, metroyet, and res. There are only two west posters on here that worth a flip.

Uh, didn't you post the update almost an hour after I did? I say again, pay attention, I already read and commented on it by the time you posted your version.

You are a bit slow today. Keep up.
 
nicisthenic.com



ATTENTION ALL FORMER AWA PILOTS !!!

STALLING & REDIRECTING

Updated 08/22/13


By now many of you have received your denial letter from the company regarding the publication of the Nicolau Award. As you can see by the response, the subject matter of the grievance has been completely avoided by management. Our protest was in regards to publishing the seniority list, ie. Nicolau Award, as agreed to in our current CBA under Section 22. This list should have been distributed to all former AWA Pilots, along with the current West seniority list, that we use under separate CBA’s from the East. There is NO MENTION OR REQUEST for implementation of this list in our filed grievance. Obviously, senior management is stalling and redirecting the subject matter. As has been previously noted, the courts will decide the implementation issue. With the potential of an upcoming merger with American Airlines, we need an accurate and updated Nicolau Seniority List to verify correct data and our placement on THAT list, which is the only official, federally binding arbitrated seniority list for ALL US AIRWAYS PILOTS!
Please refer to Section 22 of our CBA regarding the next step in this grievance process. We will move on to the appeal phase, where we will contest to company’s denial, not only because it is an agreed upon condition of our current CBA, but also, that the company has NOT EVEN ANSWERED THE ORIGINAL GRIEVANCE. Once again, the company needs to PUBLISH AND DISTRIBUTE THE UPDATED ( AS OF JULY 1, 2013 ) NICOLAU SENIORITY LIST.

An appeal letter will be posted on this website within the next 24 hours. Feel free to use this as your response if you so choose, or you may compose your own. Please refer to Section 22, paragraph C.2 for the information required in your appeal letter. In the appeal process, all individual appeal letters will be handled together, as a class of affected pilots, to be decided by an arbitrator. This treatment gives all pilots whose protest were denied a strength in numbers; you will not be singled out.

As individual Pilots, we have 15 days, from receipt of your denial letter, to send in your appeal letters to the Chief Pilot, VP of Labor Relations, and USAPA Grievance Committee. Mailing addresses are listed below. Please send all copies via certified US mail, return receipt requested.

No where in our CBA, does the company get relief from the time limitations set forth in this process. It IS NOT reliant on whether there is a merger taking place or not. There are no time extensions granted to the company “because they are busy”. Failure to act upon these grievances by the company and USAPA, in the allotted contractual time frame, is grounds for a DFR lawsuit.

And more to that point, it is disturbing to note that to our knowledge, our grievance committee has not contacted, via letter, text or voice, any pilot who has filed this grievance. By doing nothing, they have left protesting pilots stranded. A failure to represent protesting pilots is another possible avenue for DFR litigation against both the company and USAPA, if they continue to fail to follow the contractual process.

Please check back on the nicisthenic.com within 24 hours for a useable appeal letter.

YOUR CAREERS MAY DEPEND ON IT !

Care to explain what this is or who is behind it?
 
Oh, I get it now.

RR thinks that since a handful of West pilots filed a grievance, unrelated to the implementation of the Nic, that The entire DFR charge will be moved to the system board.

Must stop laughing, starting to hurt!
 
No, really...I was actually worried that maybe some West pilot, on behalf of all West pilots, conceded the Nic on the Hangar forum and uscaba was going to hold him to it.

Man, it just does not get any better than this!!!
 
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