August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Claxon]

Ah yes, another disgruntled malcontent who getting all pissy because the world is not bowing to their temper tantrum demands.

I suggest you and RR get together and form a support group of whiners to whom the world is just not fair.......

Er...um....I guess you all ready did that when you formed the scab union.

There it is. What is the only accepted list at USAirways Nic4?

 

[Claxon]

Care to explain what this is or who is behind it?

Ask your superhero. Everyone but you was on to it.

 

[luvthe9]

Well this is no big suprise. Oh well, DOJ will approve this merge when the west and it's management are gone.

 

[Claxon]

nicisthenic.com​

ATTENTION ALL FORMER AWA PILOTS !!!​

STALLING & REDIRECTING​

Updated 08/22/13​

By now many of you have received your denial letter from the company regarding the publication of the Nicolau Award. As you can see by the response, the subject matter of the grievance has been completely avoided by management. Our protest was in regards to publishing the seniority list, ie. Nicolau Award, as agreed to in our current CBA under Section 22. This list should have been distributed to all former AWA Pilots, along with the current West seniority list, that we use under separate CBA’s from the East. There is NO MENTION OR REQUEST for implementation of this list in our filed grievance. Obviously, senior management is stalling and redirecting the subject matter. As has been previously noted, the courts will decide the implementation issue. With the potential of an upcoming merger with American Airlines, we need an accurate and updated Nicolau Seniority List to verify correct data and our placement on THAT list, which is the only official, federally binding arbitrated seniority list for ALL US AIRWAYS PILOTS!​

Please refer to Section 22 of our CBA regarding the next step in this grievance process. We will move on to the appeal phase, where we will contest to company’s denial, not only because it is an agreed upon condition of our current CBA, but also, that the company has NOT EVEN ANSWERED THE ORIGINAL GRIEVANCE. Once again, the company needs to PUBLISH AND DISTRIBUTE THE UPDATED ( AS OF JULY 1, 2013 ) NICOLAU SENIORITY LIST.

An appeal letter will be posted on this website within the next 24 hours. Feel free to use this as your response if you so choose, or you may compose your own. Please refer to Section 22, paragraph C.2 for the information required in your appeal letter. In the appeal process, all individual appeal letters will be handled together, as a class of affected pilots, to be decided by an arbitrator. This treatment gives all pilots whose protest were denied a strength in numbers; you will not be singled out.

As individual Pilots, we have 15 days, from receipt of your denial letter, to send in your appeal letters to the Chief Pilot, VP of Labor Relations, and USAPA Grievance Committee. Mailing addresses are listed below. Please send all copies via certified US mail, return receipt requested.

No where in our CBA, does the company get relief from the time limitations set forth in this process. It IS NOT reliant on whether there is a merger taking place or not. There are no time extensions granted to the company “because they are busy”. Failure to act upon these grievances by the company and USAPA, in the allotted contractual time frame, is grounds for a DFR lawsuit.

And more to that point, it is disturbing to note that to our knowledge, our grievance committee has not contacted, via letter, text or voice, any pilot who has filed this grievance. By doing nothing, they have left protesting pilots stranded. A failure to represent protesting pilots is another possible avenue for DFR litigation against both the company and USAPA, if they continue to fail to follow the contractual process.

Please check back on the nicisthenic.com within 24 hours for a useable appeal letter.

YOUR CAREERS MAY DEPEND ON IT !

Just in time for Sept 24. Leonidas hands USAPA a perfect gift. The company denial of a seniority list ordered per Nicolau in a grievance no less. The two of them look like monkeys banging a football. Nice.
Nic4US. What is the only seniority list accepted by USAirways?

 

[snapthis]

Just in time for Sept 24. Leonidas hands USAPA a perfect gift. The company denial of a seniority list ordered per Nicolau in a grievance no less. The two of them look like monkeys banging a football. Nice.
Nic4US. What is the only seniority list accepted by USAirways?

What is that nicnic?

An East trick?

Not buying it.

 

[Hate2fly]

Winning! Classic

 

[traderjake]

Oh well, DOJ will approve this merge when the west and it's management are gone.

If that's what is takes you're going to retire on LOA 93.

 

[nic4us]

Just in time for Sept 24. Leonidas hands USAPA a perfect gift. The company denial of a seniority list ordered per Nicolau in a grievance no less. The two of them look like monkeys banging a football. Nice.
Nic4US. What is the only seniority list accepted by USAirways?

Well according to the letter I got signed by D. Parker, that would be the Nicolau Seniority Award, that is the only system seniority list at LCC.

Man, you are cracking me up!

Keep grasping those straws.

One more thing. Leonidas was not behind the grievance.

 

[luvthe9]

Not gonna happen, you're going to retire on LOA 93.

Enjoy.

You must be very depressed tonight with the news. Yea you better go give Chippy call......and start sending Marty some money he his about to pull the plug on the westies, boy do they owe a lot of money.

 

[nic4us]

What is that nicnic?

An East trick?

Not buying it.

An anonymous group solicited West pilots to file a grievance over the company's failure to publish the Nic this July, with the contractually mandated seniority list publication.

It seems some did and their grievance was denied.

Anybody got a copy of the denial letter?

 

[Claxon]

What is that nicnic?

An East trick?

Not buying it.

Hummel actually screwed you. Ask him.

 

[Claxon]

An anonymous group solicited West pilots to file a grievance over the company's failure to publish the Nic this July, with the contractually mandated seniority list publication.

It seems some did and their grievance was denied.

Anybody got a copy of the denial letter?

Not seems, did. And Hummel probably thought he was helping you. Merry Christmas.
Doug Parker and your HR team sent you the standard accepted seniority list, not a Nic list. Why didn't Elise tip off Russ is what I want to know.

 

[Claxon]

An anonymous group solicited West pilots to file a grievance over the company's failure to publish the Nic this July, with the contractually mandated seniority list publication.

It seems some did and their grievance was denied.

Anybody got a copy of the denial letter?

Ask your pals. They went out around Thursday. About the time Integrity Dave went to Walgreens for a bulk order of depends.

 

[luvthe9]

Did you westies not know this was coming? some of you seem suprised. Can't wait for the 24th, what will Silver say? we already know what the company will say. Total chaos at Leonidas tonight.

 

[traderjake]

You must be very depressed tonight with the news.

What's the news?

A denied grievance?

I'm more depressed about the Kasher grievance.