August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[snapthis]

Jamie you need to pay a little more attention to detail.

Leonidas did not make, create, write, produce or even ask that video be made. Not a Leonidas video.

Btw Jamie when talking about qualified pilots. How many struck tails and damaged aircraft have you guys had since the merger?

We need a bigger placard. 7.5 degrees max pitch, A321.

 

[Reed Richards]

Claxon, when an update comes out, I'll post it ASAP.

The only news I have from the West is Red Flagged trips and Jr assignments due to insuffficient staffing. Flights are full, non-reving is next to impossible. There is a campaign to replace (East) Flight Ops management with the merger.

Bottom line there is growing frustration from being on the the receiving end of Viagra and KY job from the association and management. This frustration helps AOL's fundraising efforts.

From the AWAPPA boards:

"The latest seniority list (7/13) has 1637 total pilots (including furloughs).
Six months ago on the last list (1/13) there was 1659 total pilots -- 22 more than now.

A year ago (7/12) there was 1674 -- 37 more than now.
18 months ago there was 1689 listed -- 52 more pilots than now.

Every six months there's fewer pilots and none are being replaced. Yet we still are having our same block hours and airframes (for now). We all know what a tragedy thats been done to the west pilot group, but Jezz! It's bull#### that as now we're starting to have attrition here after so much time, and yet they won't replace the head count, but out east it's a freaking hiring frenzy!

Last fact and I'll get off my rant box.. 8 years ago on this month, at the height of the AWA reign.. The 7/05 seniority list had 1949 pilots (no furloughs!"

Bottom line, someone's holding a lottery ticket and it's not the West pilot group.
Enjoy the party while it lasts because the bar is about to close and the tab with have to be paid.

Hey, I am back here to entertain during the CLT elections. Happy days ahead, we cannot do worse than our current trio! But I noticed your post.    Please let me know what you have done with the year's extra pay you have gotten over the last 8 years. I guess like most lottery winners you spent it all (maybe on LEO!) What is happening is this: Yes the Company is maxing out your schedule and filling your flights. As you continue to slowly shrink (if indeed you even really are) they will simply move back East flying to the East pilots. No more cost advantage either way, we will all soon be paid the same.Your favorite super hero,RR

 

[snapthis]

Hey, I am back here to entertain during the CLT elections. Happy days ahead, we cannot do worse than our current trio! But I noticed your post. Please let me know what you have done with the year's extra pay you have gotten over the last 8 years. I guess like most lottery winners you spent it all (maybe on LEO!) What is happening is this: Yes the Company is maxing out your schedule and filling your flights. As you continue to slowly shrink (if indeed you even really are) they will simply move back East flying to the East pilots. No more cost advantage either way, we will all soon be paid the same.Your favorite super hero,RR

Welcome back, RR. Remember there will be no East/West. If Phoenix goes away or shrinks, I take a position elsewhere. It's that simple.

My lottery ticket will be in the form of damages, therefore I'd put a little money on the side if I were you.

 

[Phoenix]

Welcome back, RR. Remember there will be no East/West. If Phoenix goes away or shrinks, I take a position elsewhere. It's that simple.

My lottery ticket will be in the form of damages, therefore I'd put a little money on the side if I were you.

Being displaced out of PHX is winning the lottery.

 

[cactusboy53]

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Life is so much better without the hyperbole that these two put out. All they have is old videos, newer videos, half-truths & oh yea.....a lot of smiley faces!

BTW, US Airways sought and got an extension from the courts for a delay to the response brief @ the 9th. Now must reply by the August 21st. If the POR date is August 15th(ish), and LCC really needs this completed.......I wonder what LCC will do then?

Let's see. There is really only one list that sits on Mr. Parker's desk as delivered by our previous CBA. He has not accepted DOH, DOH-lite, DOH w/ C&R's, etc. Hmmmm, what path does the company take?

 

[Phoenix]

... Hmmmm, what path does the company take?

The company has followed the TA for a long time already... what has it been? Eight years?

After the POR, the company will undoubtedly follow the MOU.

 

[Reed Richards]

Cactusboy said: "
BTW, US Airways sought and got an extension from the courts for a delay to the response brief @ the 9th. Now must reply by the August 21st. If the POR date is August 15th(ish), and LCC really needs this completed.......I wonder what LCC will do then?

Let's see. There is really only one list that sits on Mr. Parker's desk as delivered by our previous CBA. He has not accepted DOH, DOH-lite, DOH w/ C&R's, etc. Hmmmm, what path does the company take?"

Phoenix already beat me to the punch....if Doug is going to boldly act and attempt to impose the NIC, he will need to do so BEFORE the POR. The MOU says "lists" and the Company is contractually bound to stay neutral. So we should look for a message from Parker any day now, as well as a damages ruling from, well from "somebody." ????And your attempt to create suspence via the Ninth is laughable. We are 6 months to a year from hearing a ruling, one that will probably be rendered moot by ANY ruling from Silver, even if she sticks to here previous logic. RR

 

[Claxon]

Claxon, when an update comes out, I'll post it ASAP.

The only news I have from the West is Red Flagged trips and Jr assignments due to insuffficient staffing. Flights are full, non-reving is next to impossible. There is a campaign to replace (East) Flight Ops management with the merger.

Bottom line there is growing frustration from being on the the receiving end of Viagra and KY job from the association and management. This frustration helps AOL's fundraising efforts.

From the AWAPPA boards:

"The latest seniority list (7/13) has 1637 total pilots (including furloughs).
Six months ago on the last list (1/13) there was 1659 total pilots -- 22 more than now.

A year ago (7/12) there was 1674 -- 37 more than now.
18 months ago there was 1689 listed -- 52 more pilots than now.

Every six months there's fewer pilots and none are being replaced. Yet we still are having our same block hours and airframes (for now). We all know what a tragedy thats been done to the west pilot group, but Jezz! It's bull#### that as now we're starting to have attrition here after so much time, and yet they won't replace the head count, but out east it's a freaking hiring frenzy!

Last fact and I'll get off my rant box.. 8 years ago on this month, at the height of the AWA reign.. The 7/05 seniority list had 1949 pilots (no furloughs!"

Bottom line, someone's holding a lottery ticket and it's not the West pilot group.
Enjoy the party while it lasts because the bar is about to close and the tab with have to be paid.

Yes, you are stretched thinly trying to cover the 24% eastern group flying you have stolen.
Flying you never had. Your campaign to replace Bular and Hogg will play right into Parker.
He now knows more of your weakness. Perhaps Skinner will replace Bular.
Will Captain Gay lecture Scott Kirby in the next video? Yes. Kirby will tell Steve his choices for AA flight Ops. Skinner, Hogg and Bular.

 

[Claxon]

Cactusboy said: "
BTW, US Airways sought and got an extension from the courts for a delay to the response brief @ the 9th. Now must reply by the August 21st. If the POR date is August 15th(ish), and LCC really needs this completed.......I wonder what LCC will do then?

Let's see. There is really only one list that sits on Mr. Parker's desk as delivered by our previous CBA. He has not accepted DOH, DOH-lite, DOH w/ C&R's, etc. Hmmmm, what path does the company take?"

Phoenix already beat me to the punch....if Doug is going to boldly act and attempt to impose the NIC, he will need to do so BEFORE the POR. The MOU says "lists" and the Company is contractually bound to stay neutral. So we should look for a message from Parker any day now, as well as a damages ruling from, well from "somebody." ????And your attempt to create suspence via the Ninth is laughable. We are 6 months to a year from hearing a ruling, one that will probably be rendered moot by ANY ruling from Silver, even if she sticks to here previous logic. RR

Cactus boy says he ignores all of us, yet he listens to Marty and watches his legal team siphon millions into the Harper Legacy Trust.
Cactusboy then deludes his sheep into false hope.
Perhaps the PHX pilots should view Cactusboy and Marty with the same perspective the IRS viewed Allen Stanford.
There are many similarities.

 

[Freighterguynow]

Enjoy the party while it lasts because the bar is about to close and the tab with have to be paid.


Will it have to be paid "soon"

 

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Jamie you need to pay a little more attention to detail.

Leonidas did not make, create, write, produce or even ask that video be made. Not a Leonidas video.

Btw Jamie when talking about qualified pilots. How many struck tails and damaged aircraft have you guys had since the merger?

Are you really attacking all the new hires at us airways? Because the west has not seen a new hire in 8 years.

Ah. The proverbial "straw man" argument. Be careful what you wish for, because the DAY you West guys DO have an ACCIDENT I'll be the first on the boards to point it out. BTW, Tony Anger and Eric Auxler are Leonidas supporters, money they freely give. hey are AOL and you are AOL. Hey, Steve, go ask Kirby again at the Crew news about the Nicolau award. Seems to me "NO" comes to mind.

 

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Life is so much better without the hyperbole that these two put out. All they have is old videos, newer videos, half-truths & oh yea.....a lot of smiley faces!

BTW, US Airways sought and got an extension from the courts for a delay to the response brief @ the 9th. Now must reply by the August 21st. If the POR date is August 15th(ish), and LCC really needs this completed.......I wonder what LCC will do then?

Let's see. There is really only one list that sits on Mr. Parker's desk as delivered by our previous CBA. He has not accepted DOH, DOH-lite, DOH w/ C&R's, etc. Hmmmm, what path does the company take?

Dave Simmons. Idiot savant. Long answer.....SO WHAT? US Airways and AMR have NO SAY IN THE SLI. Read the MOU you voted for DIPSHIT!

 

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Jamie you need to pay a little more attention to detail.

Leonidas did not make, create, write, produce or even ask that video be made. Not a Leonidas video.

Btw Jamie when talking about qualified pilots. How many struck tails and damaged aircraft have you guys had since the merger?

Are you really attacking all the new hires at us airways? Because the west has not seen a new hire in 8 years.

Oh. The new hires like the girl in that AOL video can and will do a better job than you West pilots....and for A LOT LESS! SUCKA'S!

 

[cleardirect]

Oh. The new hires like the girl in that AOL video can and will do a better job than you West pilots....and for A LOT LESS! SUCKA'S!

Yet you eastie have been doing a much poorer job for a lot less for a long time.

 

[Claxon]

Yet you eastie have been doing a much poorer job for a lot less for a long time.

Have you prepared and embedded your lecture within a question for Scott Kirby? "NO"