Brundage now says labor is a brick in AA's backpack

[Bob Owens]

Means nothing. As I said before, once someone crosses the line into management, the people they once worked side by side with become the enemy.
the fact that he once worked as a union negotiator means nothing. All it tells me is that he changed his stripes and is getting compensated more than before.

They dont change their stripes, they reveal them, and unfortunately many start working for the other side long before they change "sides". What kind of a contract did Brundage get his guys before he switched? Bet it wasnt "industry leading".

 

[787nightmare]

They dont change their stripes, they reveal them, and unfortunately many start working for the other side long before they change "sides". What kind of a contract did Brundage get his guys before he switched? Bet it wasnt "industry leading".

Nor...IMO, will the TWU ever bring back an "industry leading" contract for the M & R...
especially from an industry "sellar dweller" in terms of performance/managment & balance sheet.
Where's Crandall??...

 

[Imjustsayin]

it looks to me like American Ailrines has economic "bricks" and cultural "bricks". I think the mangement of American Airlines AND its unions are responsible for both. If you have ACME stamped on your butt and you are proud of that, don't forget to turn out the lights when you are gone. If not, figure out how to build something together with your bricks and stop the constant whining.

 

[Frank Szabo]

Means nothing. As I said before, once someone crosses the line into management, the people they once worked side by side with become the enemy.
the fact that he once worked as a union negotiator means nothing. All it tells me is that he changed his stripes and is getting compensated more than before.

ie, another Benedict Arnold, who changed sides for an annual pension of 360 British pounds and a lump sum of 6000 pounds.

 

[FWAAA]

They dont change their stripes, they reveal them, and unfortunately many start working for the other side long before they change "sides."

What complete nonsense. So new lawyers who go to work for the government as prosecutors can never later become successful defense attorneys? Not everyone was born hard-wired for one side or the other.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

What kind of a contract did Brundage get his guys before he switched? Bet it wasnt "industry leading".

Who cares? As long as his constituents were satisfied with his representation, who cares whether it was industry leading?

So if it wasn't "industry leading" then he was a failure? How many of today's AA TWU elected leaders have ever brought back an "industry leading" contract to the mechanics they represent? Looks like the TWU at AA is filled with nothing but failures - who might as well admit that they'd be better negotiators if they worked for AA.

 

[Mr Red]

THATS WHY ITS TIME FOR THEM TO GO !!!!

 

[Deleted member 14439]

and on a lighter note, thursday was the annual health fair at afw. They had a dj and the whole bit. We were busy dropping a motor next to the festivities so we sent out a song request, Pink Floyd- another brick in the wall. Man that made for a great laugh, even our supervisor thought it funny. Guess I should mention that many of us are sporting foam "bricks" courtesy of one of our artistic bretheren. That is all

 

[FrequentFlierCA]

THATS WHY ITS TIME FOR THEM TO GO !!!!

I wish management would all go on strike. You would all be looking around, clueless about what to do next. You seem to have little understanding of what they do, but are somehow able to bash them anyway. Can you share with the class why exactly they are so bad? Especially relative to their peers at other legacy airlines that all drove their companies into bankruptcy? Try taking a survey of airline industry creditors and shareholders and see what they think of AA's management team. I'm not saying they are the best, but they are also far from the worst.

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

I wish management would all go on strike. You would all be looking around, clueless about what to do next. You seem to have little understanding of what they do, but are somehow able to bash them anyway. Can you share with the class why exactly they are so bad? Especially relative to their peers at other legacy airlines that all drove their companies into bankruptcy? Try taking a survey of airline industry creditors and shareholders and see what they think of AA's management team. I'm not saying they are the best, but they are also far from the worst.

"Can you share with the class why exactly they are so bad?"

1. Greedy
2. Liars
3. Disrespectful
4. Greedy

 

[MCI transplant]

I wish management would all go on strike. You would all be looking around, clueless about what to do next. You seem to have little understanding of what they do, but are somehow able to bash them anyway. Can you share with the class why exactly they are so bad? Especially relative to their peers at other legacy airlines that all drove their companies into bankruptcy? Try taking a survey of airline industry creditors and shareholders and see what they think of AA's management team. I'm not saying they are the best, but they are also far from the worst.

<_< ------- Flier, Me thinks you put too much store in your "management"! Before MCI was shut down, MCI was running on just one supervisor on day shift, and none on twilight, or midnights, for some time. The AMT's did just fine without them.

 

[Deleted member 14439]

ALL IN ALL WE`RE JUST ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL................... :blink:

 

[MikeCobbAFW]

Could you "share with the class" your occupation? And just out of curiosity what is your education level? Just wonderin'. It's an age old adage that to be a successful leader, you should lead by example. I am tired of hearing that we MUST pay a premiumfor our execs or by gosh they might just leave. Well, we are 6th inpay in industry(TWU) and we are $560million in the whole, and they say we are STILL at a $600million cost disadvantage due tour LABOR costs! Unbelievable...

I wish management would all go on strike. You would all be looking around, clueless about what to do next. You seem to have little understanding of what they do, but are somehow able to bash them anyway. Can you share with the class why exactly they are so bad? Especially relative to their peers at other legacy airlines that all drove their companies into bankruptcy? Try taking a survey of airline industry creditors and shareholders and see what they think of AA's management team. I'm not saying they are the best, but they are also far from the worst.

 

[Hopeful]

I wish management would all go on strike. You would all be looking around, clueless about what to do next. You seem to have little understanding of what they do, but are somehow able to bash them anyway. Can you share with the class why exactly they are so bad? Especially relative to their peers at other legacy airlines that all drove their companies into bankruptcy? Try taking a survey of airline industry creditors and shareholders and see what they think of AA's management team. I'm not saying they are the best, but they are also far from the worst.

So we all have little understanding of what management does, but a helluva lotta outsiders here know what we do and don't do and whart we should make paywise.
By the way, during the Crandall years, there were times you couldn't find a supervisor. Their numbers were minute, and guess what? Those were the years of THE ON TIME MACHINE.

 

[Deleted member 14439]

and another "brick"

 

[MCI transplant]

I wish management would all go on strike. You would all be looking around, clueless about what to do next. You seem to have little understanding of what they do, but are somehow able to bash them anyway. Can you share with the class why exactly they are so bad? Especially relative to their peers at other legacy airlines that all drove their companies into bankruptcy? Try taking a survey of airline industry creditors and shareholders and see what they think of AA's management team. I'm not saying they are the best, but they are also far from the worst.

<_< ----- Flyer, have you ever considered that "management" might be more than a small part of the problem?----- I don't believe AA has ever broken down the $$$ of it's labor cost between management, and non-management! At least not to my recollection!----- Why is that?