Cal Fa's Reject T/a

[featheroleather]

A TERSE STATEMENT RELEASED BY THE IAM




March 30, 2005



IAM/Continental Airlines Update -
Contract Ratification Results



The IAM-Continental Airlines tentative agreement has been rejected by a majority of the membership.



The rejection means that Flight Attendants have lost the negotiated two percent base wage increases due in both 2007 and 2008, the pension increases that would have exceeded forty percent, the enhanced job security provisions and the Continental stock options Flight Attendants were entitled to receive.



The IAM’s current collective bargaining agreement with Continental Airlines remains in full force and effect in accordance with the status quo provisions of the Railway Labor Act. District 142 will continue addressing your needs and issues with Continental Airlines.



We will keep you advised of any new developments.



Sincerely and fraternally,

 

[skycruiser]

The IAM knows that T/A was as good as it is going to get and from here on out it will not get any better. I hope you F/A hold your heads up high when you walk down the concourse knowing that your decision will most likely put a lot of those faces you will be seeing, hatefully leering back at you, out of work. When the company parks all those 500's and doesn't expand with new a/c I hope you still hold your heads up high watching your fellow, junior, F/A turning in their badges. :down:

Should make for some good times at the job fairs and unemployment lines.

 

[FWAAA]

Here's a press release announcing that CO and all other unions (except IAM FAs) have agreed to implement the concessionary agreements. FAs will be asked to give back substantially more:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050331/nyth088.html?.v=5

 

[FA Mikey]

Interesting to think that the CAL f/a's, who rejected this agreement will be willing to vote for larger cuts. Dream on!

 

[MiAAmi]

Congratulations CAL flight attendants!!!! Heres one AA f/a thats behind you all the way.

 

[uafa21]

Add another congrats from a Ua f/a. These cuts and rule changes s**K !!. More and more ua f/a's are getting fed up, they are having family problems, money problems and burnout. All the while the company is still in bk, still losing it's a**, still telling us how we have made a change. It's all BS.

You can tell what kind of mood I'm in.

 

[FA Mikey]

The cuts were needed to survive or to pay for new planes?

Continental to take delivery of additional Boeing aircraft

With the implementation of the ratified agreements, Continental is confirming delivery of the aircraft under its previously announced Boeing aircraft order. The company will now grow by leasing eight Boeing 757-300 aircraft starting this summer and accelerating delivery of six Boeing 737-800 aircraft into 2006. These aircraft will provide the opportunity for Continental to further expand its international network while supporting its domestic system. The airline also will acquire 10 Boeing 787 aircraft beginning in 2009.

 

[Borescope]

The cuts were needed to survive or to pay for new planes?

Continental to take delivery of additional Boeing aircraft

With the implementation of the ratified agreements, Continental is confirming delivery of the aircraft under its previously announced Boeing aircraft order. The company will now grow by leasing eight Boeing 757-300 aircraft starting this summer and accelerating delivery of six Boeing 737-800 aircraft into 2006. These aircraft will provide the opportunity for Continental to further expand its international network while supporting its domestic system. The airline also will acquire 10 Boeing 787 aircraft beginning in 2009.

[post="259669"][/post]​

If you read their agreement with Boeing (SEC Filing), they aren't "Paying" for these aircraft. They are Leasing them with no up front cash. As soon as they put them into service they will generate revenue which will be used to pay the leases. Maintaince will be covered by Boeing since they will all be under warrantee. Cost for the aircraft will be minimal to CAL. Congrats to they employees at CAL who actually see what is happening in the industry and realize they aren't isolated from it's problems. FA's, BOHICA, only deeper. Oh, and don't forget the vasoline your going to need it

 

[FA Mikey]

Congrats to they employees at CAL who actually see what is happening in the industry and realize they aren't isolated from it's problems. FA's, BOHICA, only deeper. Oh, and don't forget the vasoline your going to need it

[post="259721"][/post]​

Yea coming from someone who took the cuts and want to I guess make sure eveyone else does the same. It must drive you crazy to see people stand up for themselves and say NO!

 

[FA Mikey]

If you read their agreement with Boeing (SEC Filing), they aren't "Paying" for these aircraft. They are Leasing them with no up front cash. As soon as they put them into service they will generate revenue which will be used to pay the leases. Maintaince will be covered by Boeing since they will all be under warrantee. Cost for the aircraft will be minimal to CAL. :

[post="259721"][/post]​

Great plan. CAL and all the other carriers have shown an inability to keep revenue above costs. Why do they need more plane's? For more loss's?

PS A part might be warranteed, but labor to fix and AC down time is not.

 

[Borescope]

Yea coming from someone who took the cuts and want to I guess make sure eveyone else does the same. It must drive you crazy to see people stand up for themselves and say NO!

[post="259726"][/post]​

Actually, if you remember, the Mechanics at UA were the hold outs, you know, "say NO". Eventually the cuts were taken because there was no choice. It was take it or bend over in front of 'Da Judge'.

 

[Borescope]

Great plan. CAL and all the other carriers have shown an inability to keep revenue above costs. Why do they need more plane's? For more loss's?

[post="259729"][/post]​

Is this why your airline is adding more international service, to lose money? I don't think so. All airline (legacy) are turning to the international markets. This seems to be where the revenue is at this time. Of course that could change, we'll have to wait and see. At UA, the domestic side of the equation is coming down and the capacity is moving to Int'l. I assume CO, DL, AA and the rest are following suit.

 

[Borescope]

A part might be warranteed, but labor to fix and AC down time is not.

[post="259729"][/post]​

Downtime is generally minimal with new aircraft. And we all know what happened to the labor costs, so what's your point?

 

[UAL_TECH]

A TERSE STATEMENT RELEASED BY THE IAM




March 30, 2005
IAM/Continental Airlines Update -
Contract Ratification Results
The IAM-Continental Airlines tentative agreement has been rejected by a majority of the membership.
The rejection means that Flight Attendants have lost the negotiated two percent base wage increases due in both 2007 and 2008, the pension increases that would have exceeded forty percent, the enhanced job security provisions and the Continental stock options Flight Attendants were entitled to receive.
The IAM’s current collective bargaining agreement with Continental Airlines remains in full force and effect in accordance with the status quo provisions of the Railway Labor Act. District 142 will continue addressing your needs and issues with Continental Airlines.
We will keep you advised of any new developments.
Sincerely and fraternally,

[post="259575"][/post]​

http://www.iamdl142.org/co3_30_05.htm

The ‘terse’ statement from the iam is despicable!
Their membership refuted the attempts of concessions by the company led iam and the iam slaps their membership in the face. :down:

What a union…..

B) UT

 

[UAL_TECH]

Actually, if you remember, the Mechanics at UA were the hold outs, you know, "say NO". Eventually the cuts were taken because there was no choice. It was take it or bend over in front of 'Da Judge'.

[post="259733"][/post]​

We have S1113e temporary pay cuts imposed by the judge until May 31st.
We are 'still' the hold outs.
As long as everyone is willing to take pay and benefit cuts, it will never end.

B) UT