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Charlotte to Madrid & Dublin May 2011 - CLT Expansion

I just heard the other day that we may be getting two 332's in a jan/march time frame, i guess we will see.

I've heard that too, but I've also heard from other sources that we are not. Just to note, I think the next two A330 frames for US are 1111 and 1117, of which the former is supposedly already built.
 
I've heard that too, but I've also heard from other sources that we are not. Just to note, I think the next two A330 frames for US are 1111 and 1117, of which the former is supposedly already built.

Was told we were possibly losing 2 B767s. That happens, the replacements will be A330-200s.

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What is the pairing on the PHX HNL East flight? Seems like they would have to do CLT or PHL to PHX overnight, HNL, long overnight, back to PHX overnight, then home.

Correct. Current pairing is:
Day 1: CLT-PHX
Day 2: PHX-HNL
Day 3: HNL-PHX
Day 4: PHX-CLT
 
Correction on my Earlier Post. The Person who told me this, stated that this will be part of a PHX-HNL flight, so the flight number may be the same, but still will have to connect anyway, so basically a ploy.
 
The Person who told me this, stated that this will be part of a PHX-HNL flight, so the flight number may be the same, but still will have to connect anyway, so basically a ploy.

So a 757 could be used.

Jim
 
I remember hearing that we would get A340s to operate Beijing, and that the ground school instructors were already assigned and headed to school.

How did that rumor turn out?


That rumor turned out to be true. It failed, but it was still true.



The airline is proposing seven weekly roundtrip flights serving more
than 150,000 travelers annually on wide-body Airbus A340 269-seat aircraft
between Philadelphia and Beijing. Service would originate in Charlotte on a
204-seat Boeing 767 aircraft.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/us-airways-launches-bid-for-philadelphia-beijing-flights-52739632.html



I don't think you can compare the 2 scenarios, really. But the rumor was true, so I don't really see your point?
 
The US 767 will likely never make it Westbound. One hold over the NE corridor, or a long PHL takeoff queue and a PHX stop is ensured. The US A330-300 would likely do no better. If they seriously want to compete with the EWR CO flight, it has to be with the 332. Unfortunately, that would require sacrificing a European high yielding PHL 332 O&D route (LHR, TLV) or the CDG route from PHL or CLT. IMO, US cannot afford another smack for really poor route planning - ala CLT-HNL. US has always had the opportunity to upgrade its existing 767-200s to a higher MTOW by paying $ to Boeing. I undestand they looked at the option a few years ago and for whatever reason ($$), didn't do it. The 330s unfortunately cannot be upgraded to more hours (range) unless they replace the engines. Really, I don't understand how they can continue to produce acceptable profit margins with a no growth plan for the next 3 years. IMO, the move out of the 332 deliveries to 2013 has a merger/acquisition plan behind it. I wouldn't even be surprised if the no growth international route actions at PHL and the buildup at CLT is being done for the same reason. I know some will say the CLT buildup is no different than DL had at CVG or CO at CLE as connection releivers for their primary internatonal hubs, but I suspect there is a different near term strategic plan at US.


I do not think there is a merger/acquisition plan behind growing the Charlotte operation. The only airline where Philadelphia would become a redundant hub is in the case of a merger with American. That begs the question why would US try to expand their South American network in Charlotte when Miami has a pretty little hub in Miami?


Northwest, Continental, United, nor Delta are options at this point. That leaves only American. Why bolster up Charlotte with LatAm and Euro flights from Charlotte for American? How does that make US any more attractive to American?


To me it seems like a logical stand alone plan. A strong Philadelphia and a strong Charlotte. Continental did fine with Newark and Houston : US can do fine with Philadelphia and Charlotte.
 
Was told we were possibly losing 2 B767s. That happens, the replacements will be A330-200s.

Last I heard (Thursday) we are keeping the 767s through 2014. Who knows? Supposedly we are looking at more 757s...
 
Or it could be current equipment A319/20/21 operated by a West Crew as some of them now are, just a flight number change.

US already offers connecting service from PHL, so either a direct flight (same flight #, same plane) or a change of gage (same flight #, different plane) makes more sense than a connecting flight.

The PHX-HNL would require a 757 or bigger since ETOPS is required. West could fly it with one of their 757's or with any of the ex-ATA 757's.

Jim
 
US already offers connecting service from PHL, so either a direct flight (same flight #, same plane) or a change of gage (same flight #, different plane) makes more sense than a connecting flight.

The PHX-HNL would require a 757 or bigger since ETOPS is required. West could fly it with one of their 757's or with any of the ex-ATA 757's.

Jim
I think your option #2 same Flt. Number different equip. may be the thing, just an illusion that US' flying a direct flight, such as US 797 TLV-PHL A332 US 797 PHL-LAX A321.
 
I think your option #2 same Flt. Number different equip. may be the thing, just an illusion that US' flying a direct flight, such as US 797 TLV-PHL A332 US 797 PHL-LAX A321.

So just to summarize, this was much ado about nothing. 😛
 
I remember hearing that we would get A340s to operate Beijing, and that the ground school instructors were already assigned and headed to school.

How did that rumor turn out?

I just heard the other day they are going to pull the BAE-146s out of the desert and start the FL Shuttle back up! :lol:
 
I just heard the other day they are going to pull the BAE-146s out of the desert and start the FL Shuttle back up! :lol:
BAE= Britsh Attempt at Engineering -146
BAE= Bring Another Engine -146
Oh to to be flying blind between the hills and through the fog from Medford ( with breakfast waiting ) to Eugene in the early morning. Sounded just like a rocket w/ set brakes at John Wayne.
 

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