Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[EastUS1]

Blah, blah blah. Time served is the only thing that matters. Blah blah blah. I have been here longer. Blah blah blah it's all about meeeeee. Blah, blah blah punk kid. Blah blah blah, grow up. Blah blah blah. Smiley face, Smiley face. Blah, blah blah.

Kid? You're an entirely worthless excuse for a "man".

Dismissed.

 

[cleardirect]

Kid? You're an entirely worthless excuse for a "man".

Dismissed.

You are an over the hill blow hard who loves to hear himself talk. Yet you have nothing meaningful to say

 

[Fully Cross Utilized]

You are an over the hill blow hard who loves to hear himself talk. Yet you have nothing meaningful to say

Blah, blah blah. Time served is the only thing that matters. Blah blah blah. I have been here longer. Blah blah blah it's all about meeeeee. Blah, blah blah punk kid. Blah blah blah, grow up. Blah blah blah. Smiley face, Smiley face. Blah, blah blah.

Nailed it.

 

[EastUS1]

You are an over the hill blow hard....

My wager's always open kid. Show me. PM if interested.

 

[jetjok1]

That is all that resolution said. A contribution to the 401K over time.

What about an east pilot that was hired in March 1998. Has he been here long enough? He does not get a PBGC check. Should he get something?

It was aged-based along with being vested. Something you obviuosly know nothing about.

 

[jetjok1]

Real airline with pension? I don't know about Clear, but when I got hired at AWA, no one had pensions. Well, Alaska and American did, but American wasn't hiring and Alaska's senior greedys kept it for themselves, but gave it away for the new hires.

Risk? So says the guy who was riding the US train towards the edge of the cliff. If Parker hadn't pulled the switch your career would have been over. Risk, that cracks me up. Kind of like when we warned you about kicking out ALPA. Now either we merge with American and you get the NIC or we don't and you retire on LOA93. Risk, damn that's funny.

Bean

You need to bone up on your airline history. Your statement above proves how ignorant you are.

 

[jetjok1]

Okay, after hearing all opinions, my take is that the resolution in it's current form was a bad idea.

The obvious reason is it excludes those who have the PBGC benefit.

However, there is something of value in this resolution, if it were expanded to include everybody.

Let's say we try to get direct contributions to everyone, including PBCG recipients. Those near retirement would get their benefit and some supplement, those with time to go would get a larger direct contribution to build their accounts.


Now about the above post...two things..you have to define two words...here and long??

What do you mean by have not been here long enough..by here do you mean post merger LCC? Cuase everybody has been "here" the same amount of time. If you mean at one of the pre-merger companies, well here is the facts, approximately 1100 west pilot were hired prior to 1998, the PBGC cutoff year, and around 700 are pre-AWA bankruptcy 1990 or earlier hires. That means 700 West pilots have over 22 years, the government and most pensions pay after 20.

It is the same old problem. You east entitlement attitude a-holes look at the West as an inferior entity. Bottom line is AWA was a better place to be in the 2000-2005 time frame, and although the east fails to grasp that, Nicolau did not. I actually think the cutoff is around 1996 that AWA passed USair as a better place of employment, a full decade prior to NIC.

Since you continue to group all of us as East entitlement attitude a-holes........you don't deserve a response. Every other paragraph has name calling associated with it. With people like you, Ames and wannabe Metroyet...........I won't dialogue with the likes of you. At least Clear keeps in clean.......for the most part.

 

[cleardirect]

My wager's always open kid. Show me. PM if interested.

Eastus1 at the old folks home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOi9GQY5v2o

 

[jetjok1]

Since you continue to group all of us as East entitlement attitude a-holes........you don't deserve a response. Every other paragraph has name calling associated with it. With people like you, Ames and wannabe Metroyet...........I won't dialogue with the likes of you. At least Clear keeps in clean.......for the most part.

I would like to make a statement to both East and West pilots. I believe the name calling has got to stop. I think it shows a real lack of maturity and courtesy and respect for one another. Damn people.......we are professionals. Anybody ever watch CNBC to name one. They put differing opinions on air all the time to show point and counterpoint. But do you hear them calling each other names? Yes, it's live TV but they don't even come close. I think we can all make our points without the name calling. Just my opinion! And even more important now.......even with our differences we need to come together........there's another kid on the playground........and he might be the biggest bully of all!

 

[Metroyet]

Nothing whatsover that you need fret yourself over, as you'll not be the Judge of anything.

No genius...but...you know....a JUDGE will. You've already laid out your best most weepy case....inclusive of the useless "testimony" of our Hero Sully.

You failed miserably. What's changed? What is the magic union purpose that has since developed? Self hostage taking? Tried that one...remember? fail.

NEXT!

 

[Metroyet]

even more important now.......even with our differences we need to come together........there's another kid on the playground........and he might be the biggest bully of all!

I'd put that into the "your problem" category. I have a sneaking suspicion that the West pilots are sitting on the APA side of the table...if/when it suits them. You're on your own. If history teaches us anything, the East being on their own is one endless disaster.

 

[jetjok1]

I'd put that into the "your problem" category. I have a sneaking suspicion that the West pilots are sitting on the APA side of the table...if/when it suits them. You're on your own. If history teaches us anything, the East being on their own is one endless disaster.

Yeah ok.........whatever that means

 

[Claxon]

No genius...but...you know....a JUDGE will. You've already laid out your best most weepy case....inclusive of the useless "testimony" of our Hero Sully.

Do you question Sully's integrity honesty and sincerity? I am just wondering. West pilots feel free to chime in.

 

[Claxon]

What's the Legitimate Union Purpose? You guys have had a scab thinktank for 5 years and have still come up empty?

Why do you feel that East pilots have a scab thinktank? I am just curious about your assertion, relating East pilots to scabs. Feel free to chime in west pilots.

 

[Metroyet]

Do you question Sully's integrity honesty and sincerity? I am just wondering. West pilots feel free to chime in.

Do I question his integrity? You're damn right. What was the point of his testimony....failed as it was? How does a conversation with ones daughter (totally unverifiable btw) 30 years prior play into a single substantive aspect into the Addington trial? It doesn't. That's why the jury sent him and first officer what's-his-name back to the Hudson. Do I question his honesty? Sure I do. Quite a convenient little worthless story isn't it? Did it actually EVER happen? Who cares! It was entirely useless to the question at hand....obviously. His sincerity? I'm sure that's legit. He was completely sincere when he took the stand to spew forth a pointless, convenient little story that was as relevant to Addington as any other parable. He was sincerely trying to use his new found position to influence an all out seniority theft...just like any Scab does. But, like his choice of carriers, he failed. Miserably. Again.

I couldn't believe Wake was so willing to accommodate USAPA with such an obvious stunt. I guess he understood the jury more than "Sully"

Does that answer your question?