Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Move2CLT]

"The truth will set you free
but first it will make you angry."

And in luv's case - hungry.

 

[Move2CLT]

You have made your choice quite clear to all of us on this board.

So you're an expert like driver? LMAO.

Do tell us more.

 

[Move2CLT]

Pilots are incapable of working with anyone. All unions for pilots should be outlawed.

I don't care who is CEO. I'm coming to work and doing my job the best I can for the company starting in 2013, no matter who runs it.

APA, ALPA, USAPA, AFL-CIO, whatever, unionism is a failure and we're better off without it.

There ya go big guy! You've figured it out. So, you going to vote for the extra money as well in the MOU so you get extra cash while you come in and do your job?

I am.

 

[A320 Driver]

Live with what? You seem to be the expert at this as you've just described what I assume is a proper stance - am I correct?

Now, what else you got?

I don't need anything else. You just don't like it because you got caught with your britches down....LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Driver...

 

[nevergiveup]

So you're an expert like driver? LMAO.

Do tell us more.

Your posts say it all.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Here is another good piece.

Ironies in the Discursive Struggle of Pilots Defending the Profession
http://icos.groups.si.umich.edu/Real-Putnam.pdf

This one is really applicable to our situation. It's a very good read.

 

[end_of_alpa]

There ya go big guy! You've figured it out. So, you going to vote for the extra money as well in the MOU so you get extra cash while you come in and do your job?

I am.

I'm going to undercut you to the best of my ability. If it means loa93 and new hire pilots get A330 "Captain" positions in front of you that's your problem. Not mine.

These guys will fly A330 for LOA 93 rates with no complaint. Pull your hand out of the bucket of water and see how fast the hole fills in. No pilot on any airline has special privilege...that includes all of you.

I think Obama should enact a PEB and get rid of unions. Pilots reap what they sow and I refuse to participate with them any longer.

 

[prechilill]

I'm going to undercut you to the best of my ability. If it means loa93 and new hire pilots get A330 "Captain" positions in front of you that's your problem. Not mine.

These guys will fly A330 for LOA 93 rates with no complaint. Pull your hand out of the bucket of water and see how fast the hole fills in. No pilot on any airline has special privilege...that includes all of you.

I think Obama should enact a PEB and get rid of unions. Pilots reap what they sow and I refuse to participate with them any longer.

Jamie, thanks for showing your true colors!

 

[end_of_alpa]

Jamie, thanks for showing your true colors!

You bet. I've had it unions but I've learned it from AWA pilots...aka YOU.

Read flying the line. ALPA makes so many "promises" they can never keep. You can quote me. Unionism is a failure and combined merger with American (APA) who only brought out the best in unionism (sarchasim here) will hasten it.

You can post on your cactus forum that I quit USAPA and now am independent.

Unionism is a failure. Enjoy PHX.

 

[Phoenix]

I'm going to undercut you to the best of my ability. ...

No one does that better than he does himself. When someone passes wind, all the experts of etiquette say polite society neither apologizes for it or even acknowledges it. Its simple best for all to ignore it as if it never happened, especially if someone keeps doing it get attention.

 

[prechilill]

You bet. I've had it unions but I've learned it from AWA pilots...aka YOU.

Read flying the line. ALPA makes so many "promises" they can never keep. You can quote me. Unionism is a failure and combined merger with American (APA) who only brought out the best in unionism (sarchasim here) will hasten it.

You can post on your cactus forum that I quit USAPA and now am independent.

Unionism is a failure. Enjoy PHX.

Wow!

 

[Graceson]

You, standing in front of a guy on his knees with his mouth open and you unzipping. I think that about qualifies. I didn't say it...YOU DID! Now live with it.

Driver...

Certainly, in order to write it, he first has to first imagine it. It's telling... a guy who fixates on his arousal going into the deceased, grandmothers, wives, and...other men.

 

[end_of_alpa]

No one does that better than he does himself. When someone passes wind, all the experts of etiquette say polite society neither apologizes for it or even acknowledges it. Its simple best for all to ignore it as if it never happened, especially if someone keeps doing it get attention.

Try that in the cockpit. In fact, someone just recently got fired at another company for "passing gas" and affecting their coworkers.

You call it etiquette. I call it a fact of life and physics. BTW, when have we seen a "polite society" with pilots, especially here. I just call the facts.

 

[Piedmont1984]

Doctor - How can I help you today?

Patient - Well, I have a problem with passing gas. I can't keep from doing it and it happens frequently. But, it's silent and there is absolutely no odor.

Doctor - Okay, well I'm going to set you up for an appointment to get a hearing aid and nasal surgery.

 

[Move2CLT]

I don't need anything else. You just don't like it because you got caught with your britches down....LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Driver...

Got caught? Seriously? You think you've "caught" me?

God damn, your going Claxon, aren't you?