Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Zone5]

Of course it's going to be slotted. But that doesn't mean that the APA wants to use the Nicolau list. The entire mess will be re-slotted. I disagree that it will be slotted in an egregiously unfair manner "ala Nic" (as you put it.)

Three lists slotted as per a "snapshot" taken in early 2013 and protecting the positions and equipment today! American gets to keep what they want, the East gets what they have (including their attrition) and the West gets........PHX, enjoy!


seajay

 

[prechilill]

Three lists slotted as per a "snapshot" taken in early 2013 and protecting the positions and equipment today! American gets to keep what they want, the East gets what they have (including their attrition) and the West gets........PHX, enjoy!


seajay

And then you woke up...

 

[prechilill]

Another westie that doesn't know what they're talking about. The "notice to file an appeal" is the first step of the appeals process. There is no "place holder". That's just stupid. You think the courts have time for that? You either appeal or you don't. That's the way the game is played.

More west stupidity. You guys really believe some of your own crap?

http://www.courts.ca.gov/12428.htm

You're an idiot

 

[dca319]

Of course it's going to be slotted. But that doesn't mean that the APA wants to use the Nicolau list. The entire mess will be re-slotted. I disagree that it will be slotted in an egregiously unfair manner "ala Nic" (as you put it.)

Why would the APA care what our list looked like? They're going to slot with a list no matter how it looks. You're not making sense.

 

[Bill Brasky]

http://www.courts.ca.gov/12428.htm

You're an idiot

NO, YOU are. That link says EXACTLY what I did. You're so stupid, you agreed with me and didn't even know what you read.

What a bunch of idiotic clowns you are.

 

[dca319]

Filing a "notice" begins the appeal process, genius.

So you admit they haven't yet filed an appeal?

 

[dca319]

NO, YOU are. That link says EXACTLY what I did. You're so stupid, you agreed with me and didn't even know what you read.

What a bunch of idiotic clowns you are.

When are the hearing dates you mentioned?

 

[Bill Brasky]

Why would the APA care what our list looked like? They're going to slot with a list no matter how it looks. You're not making sense.

Why would they care? Maybe they don't want a bunch of idiotic youngsters clogging up their attrition for years for one thing. Especially when they downsize/close the PHX base. Even though they say it isn't gonna happen now, once the merger happens all bets are off. Same for some East bases.

I predict some kind of slotting formula, using two lists, with fences and restrictions protecting all the groups.

 

[Bill Brasky]

When are the hearing dates you mentioned?

If you were involved in this, you'd have gotten the email. If not, go away.

The appeal was filed on Dec 31.

 

[Phoenix]

When are the hearing dates you mentioned?

The appeal was filed on December 31. Earlier today (January 2), the Court of Appeals issued a “Time Schedule Order” setting April 10 as the date for US Airways (the “Appellant&rdquo😉 to file its opening brief and May 10 as the date for USAPA and the West Pilot Class (the “Appellees&rdquo😉 to file their responding briefs. Any reply brief must be filed 14 days after the responding briefs are filed. In civil cases such as this, oral argument is ordinarily scheduled anywhere from 12-24 months from the date the appeal is filed and a decision is ordinarily issued anywhere from 3-12 months after oral argument. All of these dates are subject to change based on motions that may be filed by the parties.​

 

[Phoenix]

If you were involved in this, you'd have gotten the email. If not, go away.

The appeal was filed on Dec 31.

He appears to be a poser...

 

[dca319]

If you were involved in this, you'd have gotten the email. If not, go away.

The appeal was filed on Dec 31.

I did get it. You're post stated hearing dates and you've posted none. There was no appeal filed as stated in the following update:

"Second, on Monday in the Phoenix Declaratory Judgment Case, US Airways filed a Notice of Appeal with the US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. The associated documents are posted in the legal library. More information will be provided later this week. "

You don't seem to grasp what's going on.

 

[Bill Brasky]

I did get it. You're post stated hearing dates and you've posted none. There was no appeal filed as stated in the following update:

"Second, on Monday in the Phoenix Declaratory Judgment Case, US Airways filed a Notice of Appeal with the US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. The associated documents are posted in the legal library. More information will be provided later this week. "

You don't seem to grasp what's going on.

My post said "briefs", not hearing dates. What you said is plainly wrong, and demonstrates a serious lack of understanding of how the system works.

There is no "place holder". That's just stupid. The filing started the appeals process. Timing now is up to the courts, not management, USAPA or AOL.

Sure, now you get it. Right after another poster posts it. Hmmm. Nothing fishy there.

 

[Phoenix]

I did get it. You're post stated hearing dates and you've posted none. There was no appeal filed as stated in the following update:

"Second, on Monday in the Phoenix Declaratory Judgment Case, US Airways filed a Notice of Appeal with the US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. The associated documents are posted in the legal library. More information will be provided later this week. "

You don't seem to grasp what's going on.

Keep reading... grasp, grasp.

The appeal was filed on December 31. Earlier today (January 2), the Court of Appeals issued a “Time Schedule Order” setting April 10 as the date for US Airways (the “Appellant&rdquo😉 to file its opening brief and May 10 as the date for USAPA and the West Pilot Class (the “Appellees&rdquo😉 to file their responding briefs. Any reply brief must be filed 14 days after the responding briefs are filed. In civil cases such as this, oral argument is ordinarily scheduled anywhere from 12-24 months from the date the appeal is filed and a decision is ordinarily issued anywhere from 3-12 months after oral argument. All of these dates are subject to change based on motions that may be filed by the parties.

 

[dca319]

He appears to be a poser...

So those that disagree with you are posers?