This is another "cram down" c'mon say it, shades of HUMMEL, DUI, AOL(EBERWEINE, WEBBER), faction written all over it, just like DUI is APA's savior, all preplanned, the WEST, has no SCOPE, no COC, but yet 2 members on the NAC, why? can see they have 1 rep on the NAC, but 2? Wake up! What position has DUI promised these guys?, look around you, your most effective management clones ALPA or otherwise are checkpilots, or chiefpilots, or are BILL POLLOCK hiring pilots, HUMMEL on DECK! CHIPPY NEXT?
Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion
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And where does that leave all of us?
with usapa holding an empty bag and right back to Parker and the Kirby proposal. With the Nicolau hanging over your head and no leverage.
Nice plan! How has that worked out for you so far? your prediction of PHX being sold, well not so much. Your prediction of the real money" again not so much.
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The sky is falling, run away run away.
Man you are even more bat crap crazy then normal. What is with the panic dude? Some info slip out of the BPR meeting today?
Taking that fear machine gun to everyone you can think of. DOH not looking so secure anymore?
Really? the 11th is still days away!
No panic! Cool heads prevail! Stepping back to evaluate, not so much for you MR. DANGEROUSGROUND!
This game aint over yet, your sorry hub is a sticky point in any negotiation!
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You funny guy. You think a hub is the sticking point. You think it might have something to do with a union that no one has been able negotiate with EVER?
But hey according to you the PHX is gone in a short sale so it is no problem. You say we have no scope so how is PHX a sticking point? That brings us back to USAPA.
What is it Cybil? Is PHX the sticking point or is PHX going to be sold?
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"These two systems will not come together in quite the same way as Deta/Northwest or United/Continental, which was substantially more end to end than American/US. To take advantage of the revenue and cost synergies, in the American/US combination, both networks will be materially changed. That means of course that some pilots will be required to move. Some bases may close."
~ Bob Crandall
My guess Horton Emerges standalone aquires and splits USAIRWAYS ,they have seen the books remember DUI has way "OVERVALUED THE COMBINED USAIRWAYS"!
"lost in every court available to them".......???
Could someone please buy this idiot a clue???
PS, you are correct in a misguided sense,,,the West does still insist that we are going to use the Nic, and guess what,,,,,we are right!
Sure use it at your local grocery or as you see fit! PHX luvs that stuff!
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Its as good a guess as any. AA (i.e. Horton and Crandall) have clearly telegraphed a merger after emerging from bankruptcy/after a SLI agreement, and APA has complained that AA is delaying. AA has exclusivity until the end of March, I think. Both the APA and the UCC have benefitted from DUI leverage against Horton, but still Horton is way more qualified to be the CEO of the combination.
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
US Airways, Inc.,
Plaintiff,
vs.
Don Addington, et al.,
Defendants.
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No. CV-10-01570-PHX-ROS
AMENDED JUDGMENT
(to add description of class)
Pursuant to the Court’s resolution of the motions for summary judgment,
IT IS ORDERED Counts I and III of the complaint are dismissed and judgment is
entered in favor of US Airline Pilots Association on Count II of the complaint. US Airline
Pilots Association’s seniority proposal does not breach its duty of fair representation
provided it is supported by a legitimate union purpose. This judgment is binding on the
following class: “All pilots employed by US Airways in September 2008 who were on the
America West seniority list on September 20, 2005.”
DATED this 4th day of December, 2012.
Judge Roslyn Silver
nic4 and clear you will have to leave your parents basement you are living in, go upstairs and ask them to write another check. The list will be published tomorrow. army of leonidas johnny m blanket party for you soon. This aol post of contributions is uncalled for and barbaric.
"On November 2nd, Leonidas LLC announced its intention to publish the names of individuals who have made significant financial contributions to the legal effort that has successfully defended the careers of all America West pilots. This list is our way of recognizing these individuals and to say “thank you” for affording us the resources to preserve our rights. The list will include only the names of those who have attained GOLD or TITANIUM status as of the date of publication. Although we will not publish the actual dollar amount of any contributor on our list, many of these individuals have contributed beyond the minimum amount to attain their respective status.
It was our goal to publish this list on December 1st, but because of many recent requests, we have decided to extend the publication date by approximately three weeks to allow our contributors additional time to reach these levels in order to be recognized. To be recognized, you must have attained at least the GOLD contribution level (minimum $1500), or preferably, the TITANIUM contribution level (minimum $3000) no later than December 23rd. On Friday, January 4, 2013 we will publish the list on our website at www.cactuspilot.com. "
"On November 2nd, Leonidas LLC announced its intention to publish the names of individuals who have made significant financial contributions to the legal effort that has successfully defended the careers of all America West pilots. This list is our way of recognizing these individuals and to say “thank you” for affording us the resources to preserve our rights. The list will include only the names of those who have attained GOLD or TITANIUM status as of the date of publication. Although we will not publish the actual dollar amount of any contributor on our list, many of these individuals have contributed beyond the minimum amount to attain their respective status.
It was our goal to publish this list on December 1st, but because of many recent requests, we have decided to extend the publication date by approximately three weeks to allow our contributors additional time to reach these levels in order to be recognized. To be recognized, you must have attained at least the GOLD contribution level (minimum $1500), or preferably, the TITANIUM contribution level (minimum $3000) no later than December 23rd. On Friday, January 4, 2013 we will publish the list on our website at www.cactuspilot.com. "
It sounds like aol will list the names of those that have contributed, exposing those that have not. Nothing has changed with their game plan, intimidation of their own. Sad.
"On or about April 22, 2008, defendant McI, using electronic communication, threatened the safety of a US Airways pilot by stating that “I hope the
pilot group does not know about your plan to pay USAPA dues and join as a member,
else I fear for your safety.” Defendant McI is a member of the Board of Directors
of AWAPPA.
76. The defendants and their co-conspirators have harassed and intimidated a
pilot who was interested in becoming a USAPA representative by posting his telephone
number on the AWAPPA website and suggesting that a “couple HUNDRED strongly
worded [telephone] messages” may deter his participation with his union. The pilot has
determined not to become a USAPA representative, thereby depriving Phoenix-based US Airways pilots of representation within USAPA’s political structure.
77. The pilot referenced in paragraph 76 was forced to seek the assistance of
US Airways in dealing with multiple threats he received by both telephone and e-mail in
response to his interest in becoming a USAPA representative. One such electronic
communication sent on or about May 12, 2008, inquired as to when a “blanket party”
would be held for this pilot. Upon information and belief, a “blanket party” refers to a
method of assault in which attackers restrain and blind their victim by throwing a blanket over the victim’s head, and then strike the victim repeatedly. The same pilot has been subjected to the threat of a concerted effort by multiple pilots to put him on a “no fly” list in order to severely limit or eliminate his work opportunities."
"On or about April 22, 2008, defendant McI, using electronic communication, threatened the safety of a US Airways pilot by stating that “I hope the
pilot group does not know about your plan to pay USAPA dues and join as a member,
else I fear for your safety.” Defendant McI is a member of the Board of Directors
of AWAPPA.
76. The defendants and their co-conspirators have harassed and intimidated a
pilot who was interested in becoming a USAPA representative by posting his telephone
number on the AWAPPA website and suggesting that a “couple HUNDRED strongly
worded [telephone] messages” may deter his participation with his union. The pilot has
determined not to become a USAPA representative, thereby depriving Phoenix-based US Airways pilots of representation within USAPA’s political structure.
77. The pilot referenced in paragraph 76 was forced to seek the assistance of
US Airways in dealing with multiple threats he received by both telephone and e-mail in
response to his interest in becoming a USAPA representative. One such electronic
communication sent on or about May 12, 2008, inquired as to when a “blanket party”
would be held for this pilot. Upon information and belief, a “blanket party” refers to a
method of assault in which attackers restrain and blind their victim by throwing a blanket over the victim’s head, and then strike the victim repeatedly. The same pilot has been subjected to the threat of a concerted effort by multiple pilots to put him on a “no fly” list in order to severely limit or eliminate his work opportunities."
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