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Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

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Its as good a guess as any. AA (i.e. Horton and Crandall) have clearly telegraphed a merger after emerging from bankruptcy/after a SLI agreement, and APA has complained that AA is delaying. AA has exclusivity until the end of March, I think. Both the APA and the UCC have benefitted from DUI leverage against Horton, but still Horton is way more qualified to be the CEO of the combination.
Using the all encompassing east logic you would be wrong.

Parker has been a CEO for 11 years. Horton has only been CEO for a year. According to you guys that makes Horton a rookie and unqualified.

Or could it be that LOS is not the only factor in qualifications.
 
It sounds like aol will list the names of those that have contributed, exposing those that have not. Nothing has changed with their game plan, intimidation of their own. Sad.


"On or about April 22, 2008, defendant McI, using electronic communication, threatened the safety of a US Airways pilot by stating that “I hope the
pilot group does not know about your plan to pay USAPA dues and join as a member,
else I fear for your safety.” Defendant McI is a member of the Board of Directors
of AWAPPA.

76. The defendants and their co-conspirators have harassed and intimidated a
pilot who was interested in becoming a USAPA representative by posting his telephone
number on the AWAPPA website and suggesting that a “couple HUNDRED strongly
worded [telephone] messages” may deter his participation with his union. The pilot has
determined not to become a USAPA representative, thereby depriving Phoenix-based US Airways pilots of representation within USAPA’s political structure.

77. The pilot referenced in paragraph 76 was forced to seek the assistance of
US Airways in dealing with multiple threats he received by both telephone and e-mail in
response to his interest in becoming a USAPA representative. One such electronic
communication sent on or about May 12, 2008, inquired as to when a “blanket party”
would be held for this pilot. Upon information and belief, a “blanket party” refers to a
method of assault in which attackers restrain and blind their victim by throwing a blanket over the victim’s head, and then strike the victim repeatedly. The same pilot has been subjected to the threat of a concerted effort by multiple pilots to put him on a “no fly” list in order to severely limit or eliminate his work opportunities."
A false charge that was dismissed.

 
Agreed. How does that concept play into to the east dream of you keep what you brought?

Now which bases do you think would be more at risk? PHX, one of two bases on the entire west coast. Lax being space restricted and expensive to operate. Or one or more east bases that are within a couple hundred miles of each other?
Just to be fair and not judgemental, your point is PHX is more valuable than LAX as a base hub etc! just asking? because LAX is space restrictive and expensive?
 
This would be the best deal all around if AMR can come out on their own, would solve all of our problems. Let me see PHX or LAX.
Really. The best deal?

So AMR comes out and merges with USAir. That means no MOU, no signing bonus, no chance to negotiate anything. Just on to the new APA contract.

Then we go into seniority a arbitration with a company not in BK and a pilot group with a much better contract.

Yeah that would work out really well for us.

Moron!

In addition the west still has rights to the Nicolau list.
 
Just to be fair and not judgemental, your point is PHX is more valuable than LAX as a base hub etc! just asking? because LAX is space restrictive and expensive?
As usual miss the point again.

Different operations. Not more or less valuable.

Now which of the many east coast hubs is redundant?
 
Really. The best deal?

So AMR comes out and merges with USAir. That means no MOU, no signing bonus, no chance to negotiate anything. Just on to the new APA contract.

Then we go into seniority a arbitration with a company not in BK and a pilot group with a much better contract.

Yeah that would work out really well for us.

Moron!

In addition the west still has rights to the Nicolau list.
Go for it and exercise them!
 
NONE or they would have been closed! Point is PHX HUB IS A FLUB!
I know this will hurt, but think for once.

Go back and read Crandall quote. He was talking and changes that happen WITH a merger. They are not going to be closed now.

How do you find your way home everyday?

Would you like to try it again.

Which of the many east coast hubs will be redundant with a merger?

PHL sitting under JFK? CLT just north of MIA? Both big gateways to international travel. Or PHL and CLT that have half the flights done by an RJ.

 
Where is that contract usapa promised?

How is it that the APA can vote for an MOU in one day. Usapa is going on day three.

Weak ass leadership.
What have the west pilots done lately to get a contract. west pilots standing up in numerous company PHX meetings accusing East pilots of slowing down and burning gas?

APA has a MOU with doug. This is because either doug wants a merger or he wants to help the employees and the traveling public, you decide.

Did you write your check out to the army of lyingitas intimidation campaign yet?
 
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