Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[nic4us]

Excuse me, I thought we were dealing with facts. "I believe the West already had a contribution.." They did not, it was given away by alpa.

You are an idiot, and have no idea what you are talking about!

 

[dca319]

Not helping you personally, I agree. Your west affiliation posts are steaming.

Not at all Claxon, but you've got to admit that what you're putting up is absolute nonsense.

 

[nic4us]

Incorrect!

It was not ALPA national or the AA pilots that got us a DC plan, we already had that.

It was the AWA MEC that got the west profit sharing in the transition agreement. What was it the east pilots gone? Anything? Sounds like poor negotiations if they got nothing. Oh wait maybe they got their airline saved and that was enough.

Gotta make a correction here Clear....


They did not have "their airline saved"....they had their jobs saved when "their" airline was bought by AWA to form LCC.

 

[dca319]

Your a west pilot that took a recall to the East, you are not stupid. Clear did not take a east recall. He is living in his parents house. Living in ones parents house is not a bad move, unless your waiting for damages or the nicolau.

Again, you are incorrect.

 

[Claxon]

Well I am sure the East pilots appreciate a furloughed west pilot like you being able to save them.

As far as your "It was not ALPA national or the AA pilots that got us a DC plan, we already had that." Please proved a quote from your contract, regarding your assertion.

Clear, are you looking that up? It would be helpful so I can correct myself. Remember you said you west pilots had your own DC plan in your post. My relative just said it might be slightly difficult to find an original west DC plan before the transition agreement.

 

[Claxon]

You are an idiot, and have no idea what you are talking about!

Enlighten me with further details.

 

[Claxon]

Not at all Claxon, but you've got to admit that what you're putting up is absolute nonsense.

Be specific.

 

[Claxon]

Again, you are incorrect.

Be specific.

 

[dca319]

Clear, are you looking that up? It would be helpful so I can correct myself. Remember you said you west pilots had your own DC plan in your post. My relative just said it might be slightly difficult to find an original west DC plan before the transition agreement.

Is this what you need Claxon:



[color=rgb(13.699000%, 12.199000%, 12.500000%)][font='Arial]SECTION 28 RETIREMENT [/font][/color]

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  The Company shall sponsor a 401(k) Plan. This 401(k) Plan shall contain, at a minimum, the plan design features set forth in Appendix D unless the Associa­ tion agrees otherwise. All other features of the 401(k) Plan are subject to Company discretion.

 

[dca319]

Be specific.

With what? Be specific as to what you're specifying.

 

[nic4us]

Enlighten me with further details.

Okay,,,,you are an azzhole and an idiot!

 

[Claxon]

Is this what you need Claxon:



[color=rgb(13.699000%, 12.199000%, 12.500000%)]SECTION 28 RETIREMENT [/color]

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  The Company shall sponsor a 401(k) Plan. This 401(k) Plan shall contain, at a minimum, the plan design features set forth in Appendix D unless the Associa­ tion agrees otherwise. All other features of the 401(k) Plan are subject to Company discretion.

401k is not a DC plan. A 401k match is not a DC plan. I admire you for sticking up for clear, it needs the help.

 

[dca319]

401k is not a DC plan. A 401k match is not a DC plan. I admire you for sticking up for clear, it needs the help.

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  As of January 1, 2005, beginning with the first month following ninety (90) calendar days of Active Service by the Pilot, the Company shall make non-elective discretionary employer contributions to the Pilot’s 401(k) Plan account at least monthly, in accordance with IRS funding guidelines, at a rate of seven percent (7%) of Total Compensation, as defined in the 401(k) Plan, subject to any statutory limits applicable to quali­ fied retirement plans.

 

[Claxon]

Some one asking a west pilot in the past; "Do you have a retirement plan?"

west pilot answer, "we have a 401k plan."

west, this is only because the Roth IRA was not available for franke to offer at that time.

 

[Claxon]

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  As of January 1, 2005, beginning with the first month following ninety (90) calendar days of Active Service by the Pilot, the Company shall make non-elective discretionary employer contributions to the Pilot’s 401(k) Plan account at least monthly, in accordance with IRS funding guidelines, at a rate of seven percent (7%) of Total Compensation, as defined in the 401(k) Plan, subject to any statutory limits applicable to quali­ fied retirement plans.

That was a 401k match, look at the words at least. 401k match. You left out a slight amount of detail. How do you like it on the east from west employment?