Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[cleardirect]

Whatever...all we know the pay and work environment was a whole lot better than what you guys have ever known.

Later,
Eye

The work environment???? Is it not the east pilots that have been at each others throats for years? Have we not had to endure the years of bitching and crying about how bad your management was or the poor contract enforcement?

The west had a pretty good relationship with management and each other. AWA used to be a fun place to work. the pay was not great but we had other benefits that made up for it.

You guys have been miserable your entire career.

 

[Claxon]

Hello APA, later USAPA.

I look forward to seeing the for lease sign on 200 East Woodlawn Road, Suite 250, Charlotte, NC 28217

That s the place Mike Cleary used to keep the Nic away. You guys will ever remember him as the one who boned you out of your ill gotten and never realized Nic. He was a genius!

 

[Zone5]

Really?? Really REALLY??!!! You mean THIS time you will live with what an arbitrator decides?

GMAFB! We all know your tune by now. You will only live with an arbitrated solution if it is the one YOU want. Otherwise you will throw a hissy fit, stomp your feet, and tell anyone who will listen how unfair it is. (And by you, I mean USAPA and the collective east.)

I didn't say I would necessarily be happy with a MB arbitration, if one were to transpire, just that we would all have to live with that three edged sword, which would no doubt cut many ways. Which is exactly why my preference would be for a pilot negotiated SLI. At least we will have voted our individual preferences. Try concentrating on the road ahead and stop paying so much attention to the rear-view mirror.


seajay

 

[cleardirect]

You just can't grasp it, can you.

US Airways/AMR, because of the MOU, NO LONGER HAVE ANY LIABILITY. NONE. Did you NOT read the MOU, I just posted the PERTINENT parts? There can not be a DFR any longer because, as I have instructed NUMEROUS times, A Hybrid 301/DFR claim is a two case in one claim....you have to prove liability for BOTH the Company for Breach of Contract and Union for DFR.....BOTH!

You CANNOT have one without the other. That IS BLACK LETTER LAW.

Who says we have to file a hybrid DFR? Since there is no longer any contract negotiation the company is not involved unless they try to reject the Nicolau during arbitration.

Otherwise it is all usapa if they attempt to use anything other than the Nicolau.

The MOU did nothing to eliminate liability or responsibility from usapa.

 

[nevergiveup]

Yes, Nic and dreaming are like strawberries and cream, like ham and eggs, salt and pepper shakers.... Like Mork and Mindy!

r r

 

[Walmartgreeter]

Cleardirect: "I thought that was the entire purpose of usapa"

As has been said here a hundred times,trashing the NIC abomination was job one, but not the entire purpose. I believe getting to this juncture is an apt (and successful) ending for that effort. Now for a negotiated list with fences and restrictions, a negotiated merger of the two unions, and a new paint job.

Then you can tie a bow on USAPA and say goodbye!

Greeter

 

[cleardirect]

Interesting article in the New York Times today:

http://dealbook.nyti...ote-for-merger/

Regarding potential "post merger" moves, I noted the following:

"It is also unclear whether American needs all of its combined hubs. Analysts pointed out that Phoenix was at risk because of its proximity to Dallas, since it makes little sense to have two big hubs so close to each other."

Passengers in PHX who want to travel internationally are more than likely not going to be traveling nonstop!


seajay

Those are the breaks in big money deals. So PHX shrinks. We all now work for a much larger airline with many many opportunities. With my Nicolau seniority I may just go to CLT and enjoy the weather. DFW for the big hub and variety. Who knows. Just like PIT these guys went somewhere else they did not hit the street.

I would think you guys would be hoping and praying that PHX grew so we stayed here not come to a base near you and take our rightful flying slot.

But keep poking the bear dumba$$.

 

[IADair]

Well Well Well the captain eastie beastie yellowneckers, oh for years and years now claim parker is no good, parker does not know anything, parker is horrible. They say this because parker had the gall to save us airways back in 2005, oh the nerve of the guy. the captain eastie beastie yellowneckers tried this campaign of lanyards against the might doug parker, ho ho ye ye. Parker is a genious and once again has stuck it to the captain eastie yellowneckers. you tried to defeat the genious giant parker with a landyard hohoh heee heee haaaa baaaa

You guys fullfilled his dream beyond his wildess comprhension parker is the ceo of american, the world's largest airline. the captain yellownecker eastie beastie pickleballers dont even know it, well they got disgraced again.

what will you tell your children.

oh now you will go on and on with your nonsense, but i doubt you can lie to yourselves any longer, the genious of parker and the complete stupidity of yourself. hahahahahahah ho hohohohohohoho,

Current score parker 112 million, captain eastie beastie yellowneckers dont even know it -44. You have been crushed, demoralized, xanix wont even help you, hohohohohohohoh hahhahhahaaaaa yeeee yyeeee

 

[Claxon]

Those are the breaks in big money deals. So PHX shrinks. We all now work for a much larger airline with many many opportunities. With my Nicolau seniority I may just go to CLT and enjoy the weather. DFW for the big hub and variety. Who knows. Just like PIT these guys went somewhere else they did not hit the street.

I would think you guys would be hoping and praying that PHX grew so we stayed here not come to a base near you and take our rightful flying slot.

But keep poking the bear dumba$$.

Sure, you and the other idiot Move2Clt.
None of you are moving anywhere near it with anything Nic.

 

[flyboeing737]

IADair for post of the year.

 

[Zone5]

LOL why didn't LLC withdraw their appeal to the circuit court? NIC is the list.

Let me take a wild guess at that one. Could it be that they were covering their asses in the unlikely event that the merger did not proceed, so that they could keep dragging out the old (now OBE) East-West battle? Look to see all DJ appeal activity tossed into the company round file. They really have more important things to spend their time and money on, as do all of us!


seajay

 

[Phoenix]

I have read it. Are you now saying that the usapa C&BL does not require and demand DOH?

I thought that was the entire purpose of usapa. That has been the argument from many of your buddies that usapa can't use anything other than DOH.

Changing your tune when the facts don't work out for you?

You are always telling us that USAPA never follows the rules and always breaks the law, for their own benefit. Why are you changing your tune now saying that USAPA will constrain itself, apparently even to the point you think it would advantage you? Don't you still have confidence USAPA will just make up its own rules to screw you as much as possible?

 

[flyboeing737]

Sure, you and the other idiot Move2Clt.
None of you are moving anywhere near it with anything Nic.

It will be ok when you take your rightful fair place on the NIC.

 

[Zone5]

Of course they have to justify "nefarious" reasons. Otherwise the only answer left is it was the east's fault.

Like Wake was biased.
Kasher is losing his mind.
The NY court are biased.
The NC courts are biased.

Ancient history. Nobody cares, at least nobody that matters! You keep this up and you are going to seriously marginalize yourself going forward.


seajay

 

[Walmartgreeter]

IADair said: " hahahahahahah ho hohohohohohoho, hohohohohohohoh hahhahhahaaaaa yeeee yyeeee"

Don't let your iPhone type for you while looking at the new Sports Illustrated. Guess you are "hands free" for a reason.

Greeter