Delta (finally) adds -8 to the CF34 line

[700UW]

ill grant you that DL has been a success model... but if you had to compare them to WN id think that be a mighty hard comparison wouldnt you? WN being a heavily unionized company and theyre paid i think its far better in terms of wages vs DL employees and they still have a say in it but in the event of say closing a particular function DL can go ahead and give them say a 2 weeks notice if you will vs WN who has to go thru the channels with their union and all...

Look up leadership 7.5 and see what DL did to their non-union employees in chapter 11

 

[WorldTraveler]

leadership 7.5 had nothing to do with chapter 11. Even in c11, DL's employees fared better than other airline employees.
MIT airline data shows it quite clearly even if you want desperately to pretend those facts don't exist.

You have used up all 27 outs in one inning.

hit the locker room.

 

[southwind]

You dont have to be a member, you have to pay a fee thats germane to enforcing and negotiating the contract.

If a person enjoys the wages, benefits and working conditions from the CBA, they should pay whats germane, that is only fair.

Maybe I should just tell the bank I dont want to pay my mortgage, hey everyone else pays so I wont pay but I will enjoy living in my house.

Get off the Lear Jet, they dont fly all over the place on it, stop lying like you always do.

How many jets does BOA have?

A whole fleet, but yet their customers are forced to pay for it, they have a hangar in CLT that has several planes, and they are used way more than the IAM lear, the use of the lear is on the LM2.

Should GE's customers and shareholders pay for Jack Welch's unlimited use of GE's fleet of planes and he has been retired for like over 10 years.

Maybe I should tell Duke Energy to lower my bill cause I dont want to pay for their jets either.

Its only a condition of employment if its a closed shop and the person is told that when they apply and interview for the job. And if a company agrees to it, then so be it, dont work for them.

So basically, join us or hit the streets ! Wonder where I've heard that before ?

 

[700UW]

Can you not read and comprehend?

You dont have to join, but you have to pay whats germane to the CBA.

 

[737823]

Look up leadership 7.5 and see what DL did to their non-union employees in chapter 11

Look at all the sellout agreements the IAM has fed to their members over the years. Hawaiian has the exact same RR program, no? DL has mainline employees in more stations, handles their own cargo in many locations too. Didn't the IAM give away sUAL cargo to the co years ago and didn't fight to retain it for sCAL at CLE, EWR and IAH?

How well has the IAM done at solidly profitable companies like Caterpillar and Lockheed Martin?

All industries have to adjust over time. DL did leadership 7.5. As a former UAW member are you similarly proud of the two tier award structure like you are of the BK agreement you ushered in at USAIR?

Josh

 

[700UW]

Actually DL doesnt, they farmed out most of their stations in bankruptcy, DGS doesnt count.

 

[737823]

Prove it.

Josh

 

[700UW]

Dont have to prove anything to you, I dont care what you think, if you want to know look it up or ask Kevin, he can tell us.

 

[737823]

Pretty sure DL has mainline employees at both BOS and PVD

Josh

 

[700UW]

As does US.

 

[737823]

Not UA under the IAM negotiated agreement that the membership rejected that Sito Pantoja was extremely proud of.

And robbed said US outsources cargo and express at BOS, right?

Josh

 

[700UW]

Blah blah blah blah, when are you gonna come up with something new and that matters?

 

[737823]

DL handles cargo at BOS why can't the IAM negotiate the same for their members?

Josh

 

[robbedagain]

i dont recall saying that we outsource cargo and express in bos... bos is mainline and someone can correct me if im wrong but in bos i think express has their own and cargo is still mainline... it was when i was there from june 99 to june 2000

700 is there a link for the dl leadership 7.5 i know they did a lot of destruction

i do know in my station dl ramp is outsourced considering how large of an operation they have here

 

[737823]

Sorry robbed I thought you had mentioned that express was handled by a contractor my apologies

Josh