Delta Labor Relations thread.

[townpete]

No one cares about if you want a union or not.
 
The message goes out to the people that are middle of the road and undecided.
 
But since you have never been in a union nor been in the IAM, you speak of things you have no clue about.
 
Here is what ALPA did for one of your FAs got fired and no one would listen to her.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/15/us/workers-get-greater-drug-test-protection.html
 
 
And yes DALPA helped her out and she got her job back due to them.

 

 

[WeAAsles]

Again, after 18 years you make it seem like I haven't heard all this stomach turning drivel before. Save it for someone who gives a rip. The more you and 700 and the others wave your Pom poms the more resolute I am of never to be apart of them.

While you are employed of course it's drivel. But it doesn't change the facts anyway. Essentially right now by benefiting from over 70 years of Union contracts you're like someone who is stealing cable from your neighbor. Maybe your neighbor will never find out and cut you off?

Again for someone like you the only way that you'll really understand the value behind having an "Employment Contract" (Forget the word Union for now) is if something happened to you and you needed it and wished you had it. By that time it's obviously too late and you'll be on Social Media pages telling others what happened to you and that they need to protect themselves and those against you will discredit and mock you.

 

[townpete]

Posted without comment, as none is needed.
 

 
 

 

[townpete]

While you are employed of course it's drivel. But it doesn't change the facts anyway. Essentially right now by benefiting from over 70 years of Union contracts you're like someone who is stealing cable from your neighbor. Maybe your neighbor will never find out and cut you off?

Again for someone like you the only way that you'll really understand the value behind having an "Employment Contract" (Forget the word Union for now) is if something happened to you and you needed it and wished you had it. By that time it's obviously too late and you'll be on Social Media pages telling others what happened to you and that they need to protect themselves and those against you will discredit and mock you.

 
Please see this post.
 
http://www.airlineforums.com/topic/59541-delta-labor-relations-thread/page-22#entry1217033

 

[700UW]

So the whole IAM is corrupt because of one person who got caught by the IAM for possible financial problems, yet the IAM removed him when found out, and it is under investigation, no determination has been made, he is removed pending the investigation outcome.
 
Guess you dont realize the IAM's own audit found the discrepency.
 
So in your illogical way of thinking, since one IAM person is under investigation the whole union is bad.

So are all DL employees bad because of this?
 
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+crying&biw=1366&bih=643&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiy3rThgtzKAhVINT4KHdx1CiQQ_AUIBigA&dpr=1#q=delta+airlines+employee+arrested
 
No they arent.
 
And glad to see you failed to realize a Union got a wrongly terminated DL FA her job back.

 

[Kev3188]

No one cares about if you want a union or not.

Neither does she...

 

[WeAAsles]

 
Please see this post.
 
http://www.airlineforums.com/topic/59541-delta-labor-relations-thread/page-22#entry1217033

I know 100% that I won't get an answer from you but I'll throw this at you anyway.

If you could have an "Employment Contract" without any third party being involved. Say a Lawyer agrees to write it for you. And it's only between you and your Company but it's a Legally binding agreement that protects both you and the company for the work you provide for them and what you will be compensated, would you want one?

Richard Anderson has an "Employment Contract" and if the BOD violates his contract he will be compensated. When major Sports teams fire their head coach there is always a stipulation that he will receive a severance of some kind unless he violates some part of that agreement between himself and the owners of the team. 

So if you could have an "Employment Contract" without the involvement of any Union would you want that?

Just trying to establish if you enjoy walking through life with your pants down? 

 

[townpete]

I know 100% that I won't get an answer from you but I'll throw this at you anyway.

If you could have an "Employment Contract" without any third party being involved. Say a Lawyer agrees to write it for you. And it's only between you and your Company but it's a Legally binding agreement that protects both you and the company for the work you provide for them and what you will be compensated, would you want one?

Richard Anderson has an "Employment Contract" and if the BOD violates his contract he will be compensated. When major Sports teams fire their head coach there is always a stipulation that he will receive a severance of some kind unless he violates some part of that agreement between himself and the owners of the team. 

So if you could have an "Employment Contract" without the involvement of any Union would you want that?

Just trying to establish if you enjoy walking through life with your pants down? 

 

[townpete]

So the whole IAM is corrupt because of one person who got caught by the IAM for possible financial problems, yet the IAM removed him when found out, and it is under investigation, no determination has been made, he is removed pending the investigation outcome.
 
Guess you dont realize the IAM's own audit found the discrepency.
 
So in your illogical way of thinking, since one IAM person is under investigation the whole union is bad.
So are all DL employees bad because of this?
 
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+crying&biw=1366&bih=643&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiy3rThgtzKAhVINT4KHdx1CiQQ_AUIBigA&dpr=1#q=delta+airlines+employee+arrested
 
No they arent.
 
And glad to see you failed to realize a Union got a wrongly terminated DL FA her job back.

 
Corrupt to the very core.
 
Unions and corruption go hand in hand: http://nlpc.org/stories/2016/02/01/top-ten-union-corruption-stories-year

 

[townpete]

10) Police union chieftain in Florida pleads guilty to receiving $570,000 from illegal storefront gambling enterprises. 
Nelson Cuba, former president of the Jacksonville Fraternal Order of Police, helped himself to revenues generated by Internet café gambling operationsin the northern part of Florida, using a military veterans’ charity as a conduit.  Participants in the ring skimmed about $300 million until busted by state investigators.  More than 50 persons were arrested; almost all pleaded guilty, including former Jacksonville FOP Vice President Robbie Freitas.  While there is a libertarian case for legalizing storefront gambling, neither cops or unions representing them have a right to profit from such activity at the expense of veterans.        

 

[WeAAsles]

 
Corrupt to the very core.
 
Unions and corruption go hand in hand: http://nlpc.org/stories/2016/02/01/top-ten-union-corruption-stories-year

Corrupt to the very core.

http://www.businesspundit.com/10-famous-white-collar-criminals/

 

[townpete]

9) Public-sector union employees make extensive use of “official time.” 
Government employee unions at the federal, state and local levels during the past several years have taken off from work to conduct union business.  And they’re getting paid to do it.  This practice, known as “official” or “release” time, isn’t illegal.  Yet taken to excess, it represents a breach of the public trust.  Last year it got some overdue pushback.  Rep. Jody Hice, R-Ga., introduced legislation to ban the use of release time for the unionized federal work force.  In addition, the Competitive Enterprise Institute released a report on use of union release time among workers inMissouri state and local agencies, revealing costly public subsidies – and an alarming lack of cooperation by the agencies.  Studies in each of Texas, Michigan and Fairfax County, Va. also revealed rising costs of publicly-funded union activism.  And the Arizona Court of Appeals, affirming a lower court decision, ruled that a Memorandum of Understanding forcing the City of Phoenix to compensate local police for union activity was grossly excessive.  These events were all to the good.  Unions, public- or private- sector, are private organizations.  Taxpayers should not have to cover the costs of their meetings.    

 

[townpete]

8) New York City labor bosses charged in $1 million+ scam. 
Benefit plans in recent years have provided numerous lucrative opportunities for union scam artists.  This was a good one.  Last July three local union officials in New York City, two from the Allied Novelty and Production Workers and one from the Teamsters, were arrested and indicted in federal court on charges of obtaining illegal kickbacks or stealing a combined more than $1 million from union health plans.  For about a decade, the defendants, each a plan trustee, extracted payments from a third-party administrator in return for allowing the administrator to retain the management contract.      

 

[700UW]

Last time I checked the FOP isn't organizing DL.

Another failed red herring.

 

[WeAAsles]

10) Police union chieftain in Florida pleads guilty to receiving $570,000 from illegal storefront gambling enterprises. 
Nelson Cuba, former president of the Jacksonville Fraternal Order of Police, helped himself to revenues generated by Internet café gambling operationsin the northern part of Florida, using a military veterans’ charity as a conduit.  Participants in the ring skimmed about $300 million until busted by state investigators.  More than 50 persons were arrested; almost all pleaded guilty, including former Jacksonville FOP Vice President Robbie Freitas.  While there is a libertarian case for legalizing storefront gambling, neither cops or unions representing them have a right to profit from such activity at the expense of veterans.        

 
300 Union Plumbers Spent The Weekend Installing Water Filters For Flint Residents For Free
 
Due to the inaction of state and federal officials, thousands of people in Flint have been exposed to unsafe levels of lead in their water. Now a group of union plumber are taking matters into their own hands.
On Saturday, 300 plumbers from unions across the country descended on Flint to install new faucets and water filters for free.

The effort was coordinated by the United Association of Journeymen and Apprentices of the Plumbing and Pipe Fitting Industry, known as the United Association. The fixtures were donated by the Plumbing Manufacturers International.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2016/02/01/3744770/hundreds-of-union-plumbers-spent-the-weekend-installing-water-filters-for-flint-residents-for-free/