"Easties" out West

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

they're just misunderstood

Uhh...thats not the same as being clueless is it?

 

[hula-flyguy]

*Two Snaps and a Twist*

LMAO

 

[hula-flyguy]

Why do I think if you had to work your job that way for 90 days that all of a sudden the "Tagging" would go wayyyyyy down.

Typical attitude :down:

ummm....schedulers don't write the contract in PHX, do they?

 

[hula-flyguy]

EVERY contract has ways to "Work Around" certain elements if they wanted to.

With no union representation, the schedulers, I'm sure have very little "wiggle" room

 

[hula-flyguy]

Yes look at all the great things your union contract has gotten you over the last 6 years. With anymore scarry help like that you'll starve to death.

You miss the point....the schedulers have no job(union) protection, therefore why would they not follow the contract/far's/and company policy?...buh bye wiggle room

 

[nyprincess]

Being one of the furloughed east f/a coming over to the west. I knew that I was not coming back to what I had before being furloughed. What I didn't know is how badly we were going to be treated. With the schedulers it has nothing to do with me being from the east. It happens to everyone who is on reserve here. The f/a's are great for the most part but we have those few who think that they still bought us. The pilots have no problem getting into my face to tell me how they feel and I of course have no problem dishing it back. One in particular will go as far to get a f/a suspended because she is from the east(discrimination).

The westies want to keep their vacation instead of getting a raise. Some of them don't think that I should be on their 3-4 year pay scale since we're not yet intergrated. But what I tell them is that I'm still making less an hour than when I started in 2000. Then there ok.

Tagging for reserves is a joke and I don't think the union on the east will go for it. Being extended on Hot(OPR)is also a joke and the east won't go for it.

 

[nyprincess]

EVERY contract has ways to "Work Around" certain elements if they wanted to.

This is very true on the west. And it's because the contract on the west is so vague. So you can look at a sentence on the contract and it could be read several different ways, so the schedulers can pick what they want it to mean. The east it only means one thing and that is what the schedulers go by.

 

[crewgirl]

I am a east flight attendant now on the west. Scheduling here is not the same as the east. Tagging is a joke. Hot room(OPR) can be extended for 10 hours in a day. If you are on duty stand-by from 7am until 7pm, scheduling can call you at 6:45pm and assign you a red eye that night. Even though you were on duty since 7am. I only have to do reserve until the intergration is complete, then I will get my date of hire and hold a block. The crews here are great and fun to work with. They have loads of questions for us easties and can't believe how much better scheduling is on the east.

Some crew still think that America West bought us. Which creates some conflict. There is some friction between the crews.

 

[BoeingBoy]

You miss the point....the schedulers have no job(union) protection, therefore why would they not follow the contract/far's/and company policy?...buh bye wiggle room

Without knowing a lot more about the West F/A contract than I do, I can only say that PineyBob could have a point. It all hinges on one question - does the contract say that tagging must be used instead of HOT coverage?

Jim

 

[hp_fa]

Without knowing a lot more about the West F/A contract than I do, I can only say that PineyBob could have a point. It all hinges on one question - does the contract say that tagging must be used instead of HOT coverage?

Jim

No

 

[nyprincess]

Without knowing a lot more about the West F/A contract than I do, I can only say that PineyBob could have a point. It all hinges on one question - does the contract say that tagging must be used instead of HOT coverage?

Jim

It doesn't say anything in the contract about tagging first before hot coverage.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Then there's the wiggle room, at least in some circumstances....

At least from what's been posted here, it sounds like HP scheduling automatically tags (either at the end of their trip or called from home) a reserve rather than use HOT reserves when enough may be available.

Jim

 

[nyprincess]

Then there's the wiggle room, at least in some circumstances....

At least from what's been posted here, it sounds like HP scheduling automatically tags (either at the end of their trip or called from home) a reserve rather than use HOT reserves when enough may be available.

Jim

exactly....

The last time I got tagged I was last week at my hotel in JFK and before my wake up call they called to tell me that I had a SNA turn to do. Now it's 530a phx time and the SNA turn wasn't until 130p phx time. Does that make any sense? A reserve sitting at home could have done this instead of someone coming from the east coast on a 10 hr overnight.

 

[BoeingBoy]

....before my wake up call they called....on a 10 hr overnight.

Again, without knowing your contract, that sounds like possibly interrupting your contractual rest period.....

Jim

 

[FlyGuyBWI]

Wow, it sounds like the "West" might like the relationship AFA East has/had with US Airways scheduling. Following the contract is one thing, but unreasonable assignments are another. Here's to taking the best of both worlds and creating a new US Airways that's a great deal for the passengers and a pretty darn good place to work too.