F/a Cabin Cleaning Duties

[PITbull]

All they are really being asked to do is cross seatbelts. Like xoxo said, if you ask people to take stuff out of thier seat pockets they will. Crossing seatbelts isn't a big deal, and it makes the cabin look much nicer. No one has Mommie Dearest over them making them scrub floors in thier coat dress or anything. There is alot more to worry about than cleaning the plane.

Where was all of the outrage when the 170 Division started? When it did, the F/As were expected to roll the double trash cart (same one from the Airbuses) onto the jetway and change the garbage, plus the galley and lav trash on top of tidying the cabin. (Not to mention they were five year mainline employees but were not give health insurance for six months, or new uniform pieces.) Thankfully they got the company to change it so if they need it changed they just clean the cabin, someone else empties the trash carts. I suspect if they hadn't gotten this changed, big-mainline would have been expected to do it as well.

I don't remember anyone at mainline being so outraged that the junior F/As were expected to change trash carts. It's just another case of okay for them, not ok for me.

Take the buyout if you don't want to tidy the cabin. The job has always included some handling of trash. There's just too many people who want thier job back for people to be complaining about this.

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Light,

It was actually through negotiations with the MAA Committee that got the company to stop expecting f/as to drag the trash trolly out and change liners. We awere all outraged. That is why MAA only "tidies" the a/c. Mainline and MAA do the same duties. The difference in the past is that mainline had negotiated 32 cities and MAA (to mirror the work rules of Am Eagle) was all stations.

Deplaning and then cleaning a plane that has over 144- 165-192 seats and then turn it around in less than 30 minutes to reboard is different than tidying an a/c that has 70 or less seats.

 

[Light Years]

Light,

It was actually through negotiations with the MAA Committee that got the company to stop expecting f/as to drag the trash trolly out and change liners. We awere all outraged. That is why MAA only "tidies" the a/c. Mainline and MAA do the same duties. The difference in the past is that mainline had negotiated 32 cities and MAA (to mirror the work rules of Am Eagle) was all stations.

Deplaning and then cleaning a plane that has over 144- 165-192 seats and then turn it around in less than 30 minutes to reboard is different than tidying an a/c that has 70 or less seats.

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In most cases we're talking about 120 or so seat planes with at least 3 F/As. MAA can fly planes up to about 100 with only two. Having done both mainline and Express, there is nothing at all easier about working by yourself- cleaning, catering, serving, boarding and deplaning 50 people on numerous legs, 20 minute turns on schedules mainline would never dream of is a bit harder than crossing a few seatbelts with four flying mates on a 757.

How many stations does mainline even fly into anymore? 70 or 80? Take out Europe and the West Coast etc and we're only talking about 50 or so cleaning stations, up from 32.

 

[Travelpro72]

Well we "flight attendants" just received an e-line from teddy that utility will no longer clean in any hub or focus city effective immediately. I guess that clears up the crap of when to clean and when to not clean. what happened? hmmmm 😉

 

[PITbull]

Management figured since Utility will be mostly gone by March 28, they wanted to transition (so they said) the f/as into doing this portion and utility will only dump lavs, take out trash from the plane and continue with performing security checks.

 

[Light Years]

PITbull- I love your new signature 🙂

 

[bookmdano]

Dear F/A's,
I really want to help you when I'm flying, and it really grosses me out when I reach into a seatpocket and find Heaven only knows what...may I ask though, that when you are going down the aisle that you acknowledge my existance and look left and right for the person in the window seat trying to get your attention as you briskly run down the aisle with the collection bag blowing in the wind. I've realized that your not going to slow down your run down the aisle, so I just bring my own disposible bags. If more customers would bring their own garbage bags, we could end this discussion.
A 24"x 18" seating area for any length of flight it is unreasonable. If I accidentally drop something on the floor, there is no way in H___ I can bend over and pick it up, especially if the sleeper in front of me has his seat reclined into my lap. And by the time we land and I can finally reach to the floor, you are at the front door saying your goodbyes and I still have no place to deposit the trash. Please let me know how I can help?

 

[Travelpro72]

We honestly appreciate passengers like you. We deal with so many at one time that we dont always notice everyone in every seat. I know what you mean though. I have walked down the aisle with a bag and still get cups, banana peels and YES apple cores and diapers on the way back...LOL....gotta love the job. The best advice would be to tell your neighbors what you do. We can only hope that they will bring a bag next time. Like the old shampoo commercial, "and so on, and so on, and so on".... 😀

 

[a320av8r]

I just finished a 4 day trip.
The F/A's cleaned on every leg.
The turns were faster and the planes were cleaner than with utility.
During their announcement they said "if your not taking it with you, we'll take it now". Made a point of asking any passenger with a newspaper if they were planning on keeping it, if not they collected it. They said it worked well and our customers were very cooperative. 😉

 

[bookmdano]

During their announcement they said "if your not taking it with you, we'll take it now"

That's a very good idea. And may I suggest that the announcement be repeated when coming from the back of the plane forward. Seems like you're 2 rows past me by the time I realize what you are doing, and then I have to try to slam dunk the trash from a longshot and skim the head of the person on the aisle. Thanks!

 

[xoxo]

I just finished a 4 day trip.
The F/A's cleaned on every leg.
The turns were faster and the planes were cleaner than with utility.
During their announcement they said "if your not taking it with you, we'll take it now". Made a point of asking any passenger with a newspaper if they were planning on keeping it, if not they collected it. They said it worked well and our customers were very cooperative. 😉

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The MAA F/A's have been doing that since day 1. It makes it so easy when you just announce to the passengers that you would like them to hand over EVERYTHING!!!!! That is why the MAA a/c's are so clean..because it is the f/a's cleaning them and not utility. 😉

 

[PITbull]

Dear F/A's,
I really want to help you when I'm flying, and it really grosses me out when I reach into a seatpocket and find Heaven only knows what...may I ask though, that when you are going down the aisle that you acknowledge my existance and look left and right for the person in the window seat trying to get your attention as you briskly run down the aisle with the collection bag blowing in the wind. I've realized that your not going to slow down your run down the aisle, so I just bring my own disposible bags. If more customers would bring their own garbage bags, we could end this discussion.
A 24"x 18" seating area for any length of flight it is unreasonable. If I accidentally drop something on the floor, there is no way in H___ I can bend over and pick it up, especially if the sleeper in front of me has his seat reclined into my lap. And by the time we land and I can finally reach to the floor, you are at the front door saying your goodbyes and I still have no place to deposit the trash. Please let me know how I can help?

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LOL... now that scene would make a great sit-com...

 

[NAPAUS]

Sounds like some good old fashioned common sense has returned. IMO the key to a happy work life is to work smarter not harder. These suggestions on how to speed up and improve the process just show how much talent lies within those who do the job.

Now if we could jst get CCY to listen to you more often and implement your ideas then you's have a truly great airline with employees taht are motivated and invested in the company and it's product & Service.

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Yes yes yes. Now if Crystal Meth City occupants could live in the real world and decide whether they are running a pseudo-full service airline or trying to emulate an LCC, maybe they could get it together. Allowing f/as to make a direct- to the point announcement about passing everything to the f/as who are cleaning the a/c, so they can keep the cabin clean and turn the airplane to ensure on-time performance. Instead some NIT WIT from corporate/product design... LOL (laughing as i write this) wants to say it ever so nicely as to not ask anyone to assist in removing THEIR own trash. The point...what are the smokin in CCY!!?? When will US mgmt ever decide what kind of an airline they want to be......

 

[Travelpro72]

I couldn't agree more. They are sooo damn afraid to p/o someone with announcements. Only a few actually read those announcements they want us to read. You end up sounding like a damn robot. For instance "upright and locked position"....? what other way to stow it? "please" turn off all portable electronic devices.... "ALL electronic devices need to be turned OFF at this time. I love the "If your not taking it with you, we'll take it now" announcement. Im gonna have to remember that one. I had a friend long ago say, as i was walking through the cabin, "If you have any trash in your seatback pocket please discard of it to the f/a's as it does not serve as your personal trash receptacle".....I could have died.

 

[phillyguy]

I did a roundtrip PHL/LAX last week. On the outbound flight before arriving in LAX, the pilot came on and said in an effort to help reduce our costs, the flight attendants will come through the cabin to collect any un-needed reading materials and trash, if you could kindly pass all un-needed materials to the flight attendants it will help us keep the plane clean for the next group of passengers. The flight attendants then came through with a smile and thanked everyone as they went down the aisle, and you could clearly see the passengers were going out of their way to help throw out trash including picking papers and napkins off the floor

On the return flight, no such annoucement but the one flight attendant came by and said my new job is garbage collector - do you have any garbage!! It certianly evoked a different reply from the passengers

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

On the return flight, no such annoucement but the one flight attendant came by and said my new job is garbage collector - do you have any garbage!! It certianly evoked a different reply from the passengers

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I think trash collector would have been more appropriate.