First 757 to outsourced MRO

[ibby]

Oh and TIMCO does line maintenance too

 

[Buck]

Oh and TIMCO does line maintenance too

Are turn times ever considered?

Or Quality?

 

[wrencher]

Are turn times ever considered?

Or Quality?

Buck they didn't worry about the turn times at MCIE when we turned them out early what ever that meant. All I heard was bitchin from the TWU bretheren about MCIE still being open. Well fellas welcome to your bowl of humble soup I just hope the next union won't staple your a$$$$$$ TO the bottom remember Gless is watching your back .

 

[Overspeed]

Hmm, you seem to forget that in the TA we rejected the ASM cap was more than doubled, meaning that those in the smaller stations would have reason to be concerned and it would be by our own hand.

So tell us Overspeed, do you think that if we had agreed to the TA that AA would not have filed? That they would have continued to pay leases on things they did not use like all those planes in the desert and abandoned facilities?

I have no idea whether or not AMR would have filed but what I do know is this 1) AMR was not bluffing or threatening BK like you said, 2) while the ASM cap changed the ERJ's are a dying fleet type and the fact that AE is adding CRJs means they will add ASMs while decreasing or flying the same amount of AE flights and that cap would have had limited effect to AA flying and jobs, 3) if the TA had passed I would have had close to an additional $15K plus in my pocket.

You know nothing about leasing. You can't just stop paying unless you discharge those lease under BK or restructure them which AA did in 2003 already. To end a lease you must buy out the lease or lease something else from the company. The more you talk Bob the more you reveal how little you know about business. The MCIE lease was for $25M for 20 years. $1M a year did not force AMR in to BK, $3 a gallon jet fuel and outsourcing did.

Of course I am not worried. According to your many posts we will all be getting a raise in BK, have the right to strike once you get to the US Supreme Court, our retirement will be improved through 401(k) matching, and no jobs will be lost. I am feeling great to have you walking in to US BK Court to argue our case.

 

[Overspeed]

Question was asked about hourly rates at TIMCO rumor has it it is between 40 to 50 a man hour and the mechanics only get a third of that. But all MRO's have gone fixed price any ways so the rate doesn't really matter. If it cost AA 2 million to do a C check in house and the MRO's bid 1 million then geuss who does the C check

Your right, hourly billed rate does not matter unless you are paying time & material.

 

[Buck]

Your right, hourly billed rate does not matter unless you are paying time & material.

Unless the original agreement has a penalty phase. Fines for being late, etc...

As in a earlier post, 5CK is late, TIMCO has asked for a 10 day extension and the FCF test hop is 12/15/11.

 

[Overspeed]

Unless the original agreement has a penalty phase. Fines for being late, etc...

As in a earlier post, 5CK is late, TIMCO has asked for a 10 day extension and the FCF test hop is 12/15/11.

Then AA comes out ahead either way.

 

[Birdman]

I have no idea whether or not AMR would have filed

Your so bent on castigating Bob that you'll never admit it was the pilot negotiation's impass that sent the BOD over the edge. The TWU was essentially on ice.

if the TA had passed I would have had close to an additional $15K plus in my pocket.

We will soon see if your $15K+ would have just been another called loan from AA, a repeat of the 2001-04 scenario. I hope that will not be the case but those with experience practically guarantee it.

I am feeling great to have you walking in to US BK Court to argue our case.

That will be no more likely than you going on agency fee.

 

[Overspeed]

TIMCO opens new facility.

http://www.bizjournals.com/triad/news/2011/11/07/timco-unveils-new-davidson-county.html

 

[Birdman]

TIMCO opens new facility.

http://www.bizjournals.com/triad/news/2011/11/07/timco-unveils-new-davidson-county.html

And this has what to do with the late 75 they're overhauling?

 

[Overspeed]

And this has what to do with the late 75 they're overhauling?

Nothing. Don't worry about it. Move along.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Took my brother to GSO to catch a flight this morning and it looked like 3 AA 757's in TIMCO's facility. 1 sitting on the ramp was definitely AA's, a 2nd was behind the first from my point of view from the terminal so didn't have a great view but looked like AA's, and the third just had the tail sticking out between the hanger doors and my viewpoint was from almost directly behind it but it appeared to be AA's. Couldn't swear that the last 2 were AA's given my limited view, though.

Jim

 

[Buck]

I guess the line could be outsourced also


TIMCO LineCare offers a range of line maintenance and non-technical support services under FAA Operations Specification D107 certification at a growing number of airports. Through TIMCO LineCare, operators gain:

•Low risk, reliable support from a large, established provider
•Opportunity for multi-location support from a single source
•Benefits from less infrastructure carrying costs and more efficient use of touch labor for line support
TIMCO LineCare performs a range of services across its growing network, grouped into two broad categories as follows:

•Traditional Line Maintenance Support
•Cabin Refurbishment Services

TIMCO LineCare also makes a 24/7/365 operations call center available to its customers. The center functions as a single point of contact for urgent requests, AOG situations or to address questions or other problems at any time of the day or night. This additional element of support provides further assurance to operators seeking to maximize aircraft reliability and availability for revenue service.

TIMCO LineCare’s dedicated station teams provide reliable support to achieve aircraft maintenance release on time while eliminating the need for operator intervention. The comprehensive line maintenance services offered across the TIMCO LineCare network include:

•Overnight checks
•Transit checks and logbook clearance
•Deferred and MEL items
•"Meet, greet and dispatch"
•On call or non-routine/AOG support
•Ground support equipment maintenance


This doesn't have anything to do with the 757's being outsourced to TIMCO either, so I will move along.

 

[Overspeed]

I guess the line could be outsourced also


TIMCO LineCare offers a range of line maintenance and non-technical support services under FAA Operations Specification D107 certification at a growing number of airports. Through TIMCO LineCare, operators gain:

•Low risk, reliable support from a large, established provider
•Opportunity for multi-location support from a single source
•Benefits from less infrastructure carrying costs and more efficient use of touch labor for line support
TIMCO LineCare performs a range of services across its growing network, grouped into two broad categories as follows:

•Traditional Line Maintenance Support
•Cabin Refurbishment Services

TIMCO LineCare also makes a 24/7/365 operations call center available to its customers. The center functions as a single point of contact for urgent requests, AOG situations or to address questions or other problems at any time of the day or night. This additional element of support provides further assurance to operators seeking to maximize aircraft reliability and availability for revenue service.

TIMCO LineCare’s dedicated station teams provide reliable support to achieve aircraft maintenance release on time while eliminating the need for operator intervention. The comprehensive line maintenance services offered across the TIMCO LineCare network include:

•Overnight checks
•Transit checks and logbook clearance
•Deferred and MEL items
•"Meet, greet and dispatch"
•On call or non-routine/AOG support
•Ground support equipment maintenance


This doesn't have anything to do with the 757's being outsourced to TIMCO either, so I will move along.

Another line provider http://www.lufthansa-technik.com/bea/media-assets/references/WF/Line-Maintenance/LH_Station_Capability_List.pdf

 

[chris perry]

Took my brother to GSO to catch a flight this morning and it looked like 3 AA 757's in TIMCO's facility. 1 sitting on the ramp was definitely AA's, a 2nd was behind the first from my point of view from the terminal so didn't have a great view but looked like AA's, and the third just had the tail sticking out between the hanger doors and my viewpoint was from almost directly behind it but it appeared to be AA's. Couldn't swear that the last 2 were AA's given my limited view, though.

Jim

Yes they have been sitting since 11-1-2011,waiting induction into c check.They were sitting in the desert before that ferried twice so far.