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(1) Desensitization:Constant exposure to the concept of gay relationships by the media. Especially T.V. shows.
 
(2) Jamming:See GLAAD (a libtard terrorist group) and Duck Dynasty.
 
(3) Conversion:This is what we are starting to see now.
 
Ms Tree you are trying to make me feel like I am the odd one out. YOU are the odd one out.
 
You call me a bigot. I call you a sheep. You think whatever the media tells you to think.
 
Do not try to trivialize me or make me feel inferior because I do not subscribe to the libtard gay propaganda, it is called thinking for yourself, try it sometime.
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
So you basically found a hypocritical church that tells you exactly what you want to hear.
 
Good for you. Drink that Kool-Aid.
Do you cut your hair?  Ever enjoy pork ribs?  How about mowing on the Sabbath....according to your bible, you should be struck down.   According to your bible, you are going to hell.  Or are those things that God will give you a pass on?   Or are you saying that it's okay to ignore what God says, so long as it suits you?   Enjoy YOUR Kool-Aid.
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
Before you were saying this.

Now your saying this. Flip-flop much.
Consent is a legal issue. A 13 yr old cannot sign a contract due the fact that they cannot legally give consent. An opinion caries no legal weight and can be rendered by anyone.
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
Exactly. Political agenda.
Frame it how ever you choose. You lost the battle on womans suffrage, civil rights, integration and a host of other battles. Must sucm to be on the losing side of history all the time.
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
(1) [/size]Desensitization:Constant exposure to the concept of gay relationships by the media. Especially T.V. shows.
 
(2) [/size]Jamming:[/size]See GLAAD (a libtard terrorist group) and Duck Dynasty.
 
(3) [/size]Conversion:This is what we are starting to see now.
 
Ms Tree you are trying to make me feel like I am the odd one out. YOU are the odd one out.
 
You call me a bigot. I call you a sheep. You think whatever the media tells you to think.
 
Do not try to trivialize me or make me feel inferior because I do not subscribe to the libtard gay propaganda, it is called thinking for yourself, try it sometime.
I dont care what other people do so long as it has no affect on me. If someone wants to smoke they should be allowed to do so so long as I dont have to inhale it. Other people getting married has absolutely not affect on my life in the slightest so who cares.

You seem to be under the impression that you can take your beliefs and force them on others. The COTUS and the courts say you cannot do that.

Same sex marriage will be accepted as the law of the land. Seems like it will be much sooner thant I thought.

As someone else framed it. Who owns your body? You or the government? If you own it then the goverment should have no say what you do with it.
 
Ms Tree said:
I'm not the one who brought up morals oh pointy one.
 
You think everyone else will agree with your morals?  I think your morals suck.  WTF cares?
 
Do you have any proof that they are?
 
Do you even read what you right?  Expanding freedoms is a bad thing just because it disagrees with your morals?  I am glad that people like you were not around when suffrage, civil rights, interracial marriage and other such 'moral laws were being reversed.
 
The 14th amendment says nothing about moral laws it only says that all laws must be equal for all people in the US.
If you haven't figured it out yet, most of our laws are based on morality.
Bestiality law is a morality law.
Having sex with minors is a morality law.
Abortion limitations is a morality law.
etc...
Think about it. (Yea I know that is a stretch... 😛 )
 
xUT said:
If you haven't figured it out yet, most of our laws are based on morality.Bestiality law is a morality law.Having sex with minors is a morality law.Abortion limitations is a morality law.etc...Think about it. (Yea I know that is a stretch... 😛 )
Morality is relative. Thats why in KY a 15 yr old (I think) can get married. I think pedophilia is a onsent issue not moral. Does a child have the capacity to make an informed decison. Abortion is a religious issue. For someone of faith its moral, for a non believer such as my self its a decision to be made by the woman and I respect her decision since it is not my body.

The laws may be losely based on morality, what ever that is but they are applied equally independant of any moral guidence.

Same sex mariage may have opponents whos opposition is based on moral grounds but the law pertaining to the application of the law has no moral component. All the 14th says is that everyone is entitled to due process and everyone is equal under the law. Personal morals do not enter into the equation.

Also, any law based on morals must have a legal basis. You may think it is morally wrong to eat pork. There is no legal basis upon which to ban pork so that law wont fly.


Not all laws are moral either. The ban on euthanasia is one that many feel is not moral or legal
 
Earth is a crazy, loud, scary place. If two people's lives happen to cross, and they're lucky enough to fall in love, who are any of us to stand in the way?
 
Ms Tree said:
I dont care what other people do so long as it has no affect on me. If someone wants to smoke they should be allowed to do so so long as I dont have to inhale it. Other people getting married has absolutely not affect on my life in the slightest so who cares.

You seem to be under the impression that you can take your beliefs and force them on others. The COTUS and the courts say you cannot do that.

Same sex marriage will be accepted as the law of the land. Seems like it will be much sooner thant I thought.

As someone else framed it. Who owns your body? You or the government? If you own it then the goverment should have no say what you do with it.
BaRack, now owns your body!
 
Kev3188 said:
Earth is a crazy, loud, scary place. If two people's lives happen to cross, and they're lucky enough to fall in love, who are any of us to stand in the way?
Well...it's in the bible that a man shall not lay with another man.  It's also in the bible that a man shall not cut his hair...a man shall not eat pork.....a man shall not work on the sabbath....and a man shall not touch an unclean woman.  But these folks who point to the bible as being the definitive reason why we should stand in the way of a man marrying another man  have been quite silent when it comes to the things they choose to ignore. 
 
KCFlyer said:
Well...it's in the bible that a man shall not lay with another man.  It's also in the bible that a man shall not cut his hair...a man shall not eat pork.....a man shall not work on the sabbath....and a man shall not touch an unclean woman.  But these folks who point to the bible as being the definitive reason why we should stand in the way of a man marrying another man  have been quite silent when it comes to the things they choose to ignore.
Religion al -la-cart. Pretty convenient.
 
KCFlyer said:
LUV you Sharon, but my church taught me how I was going to hell for this, or going to hell for that.  Today I am divorced, not because I wanted it.  But if I find a woman to spend my life with, I'm going to hell for that too...unless I pay the $$$ required to get my previous marriage  (which produced my most beautiful daughter) annulled (meaning it never happened).  I found a faith that tells me I am good.  That tells me my ex wife is good.  That tells me that there is a God who loves me, and who isn't taking notes to hold against me when I get to the next world. 
 
GOD loves YOU KC and He always has. We are ALL sinners.  GOD sent His only Son Jesus Christ
to suffer and die on the Cross for our salvation and then to rise again. Trust in that KC. Merry Christmas to you!
Love,
Sharon
 
Ms Tree

I keep hearing you say that what people do in the privacy of their own lives is their own business.

The problem is of course that gays do not keep their private life private. They "advertise" the gay lifestyle every chance they get.

Stop telling me it is none of my business when the gay population makes such a point of making "the gay lifestyle" a public display. If they are going to make something so public they should expect the public to get involved. If you wish to air your opinions you should expect others to air theirs without a terrorist group like GLAAD getting involved because gays did not like what was said.

Hollywood has turned being gay into a stereotype. It is a media attempt to "brand" being gay. It is an attempt to "market" homosexuality.

You say I have no right to interfere with others rights.

What about my right not to be flooded by a left leaning media with homosexuality every time I leave my home?

You keep bringing up religious zealots.

You try to infer that no other groups have issues with homosexuality.

I myself am not overly religious (I do believe in God). I usually make decisions based on logical analysis of available information. In my view homosexuality is wrong because it is very obvious and very factual that sexual contact between a man and a woman produce a baby. This is a truth that cannot be denied, not even by a liberal. When you couple two of the same sex it goes against nature’s very design.

Are you trying to convince me to deny a logical truth based on your fantasy land wants? Have you considered the implications for our society by altering the foundation on which families have been built for thousands of years? Do you seriously believe that when you change the family dynamic that there will be no consequences? Look at our society today. Look at the crime rate. Do you not think broken homes have anything to do with that?

Just remember, the family unit is the basic building block of a society, once you tear that down expect a domino effect. We are already seeing the effects of that with the rising divorce rate.

You are a fool following fools down a path of self destruction. If you want to destroy yourself that is your business but I will be damned if I am going to sit silently while I pay the price for your stupidity.
 
Utah ranks 47th in teenage pregnancy, lowest in percentage of births out of wedlock, lowest in number of abortions per capita, and lowest in percentage of teen pregnancies terminated in abortion........I guess they are doing something right.  Of course somehow the left will consider those bad qualities.
 
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