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Getting Ugly In Phl

700UW said:
A fresh approach is not violating a contract, we have been there and done that and it has ruined the labor-management relationship.

Bottom line it is a legal contract and they have abide by it or pay the price.

Amazing how you can't stand up for yourself and let management run all over you.
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how do you legally define "Crybaby"?? Oh sorry.... that would be 700UW or DELL DUDE.
 
desertgal said:
osunut, I'm just curious, are you part of an organized labor group?
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Yep and seen the corruption they really are. To bad they can't get audited by the Feds.
 
700UW said:
Cooperative problem solving is not management blantantly violating a contract.

Can't you understand that?

Management for the past several years has declared war on the employees.

Does the words "Airbus Arbitration" mean anything to you?
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I can't wait for the new mgmt to come in and start firing ppl for failing to do their job according to the CBA and then get some ppl who understand what TEAMWORK really is. Cause a delay, get written up, taking an extra 15 mins on your break, get wirrten up, slackers should be written up and fired. Black and White never works, type A personalities only suceed at pissing off everyone, isolating themselves and dying young.
 
It should be quite obvious to anyone reading these posts that there is a serious problem in Philly. A good way to understand a problem is to roll up your sleeves and live the problem. Good managers understand this concept. I highly doubt that management was trying to take anyone's jobs away, but rather they were trying to live the problem. Most reasonable people would understand and accept the fact that their working conditions will improve if management fully understands the problem by living it (union or non-union). Unreasonable people (union or non-union) won't understand it and get butt hurt. Doug, I hope your reading these posts. Philly needs help!
 
So after wading through 17 pages of mostly argumentative posts the information that could possibly be considered valid is some HP trainers went to PHL and tried (after being told not to) to make the people working there look bad by acting like they could do it better..

DUMB, DUMB, DUMB. They couldn't have picked a worse place to do it. All they proved was their own bad judgement.

It has nothing to do with good customer service. Only a bad attitude on the part of some HP imports toward the employees at PHL.
 
Does the words "Airbus Arbitration" mean anything to you?

That was old management. They are mostly gone. Can't you let go of the past and try to get along? Just try.
 
"...Most reasonable people would..."
-EricLV2Fish

Therein lies the problem when dealing with PHL.
 
hp_fa said:
That was old management. They are mostly gone. Can't you let go of the past and try to get along? Just try.
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HP:

You'll never see the die hard unionistas
from US give up the fight to preserve
their outdated contracts and wages.

They just don't understand that it's NOT
about their contract, it's about doing the
right thing for the customer, which in turn
keeps their paychecks coming. Unions
are morally bankrupt. They are soul less
entities that only deal in black and white
and they don't care one bit about the
customer, or the company that pays
the wages of the rank and file.

With union members, it really is all
about them because they have a god
given right to hide behind their contract
and do no more, and often less than the
contract dictates. I look back on my days
as a union member in the television
industry, and I laugh. I worked in a
news studio as a camera operator, and
if a chair or ladder was in my way during
a shot setup, I was not allowed to move
it. I had to call in a stage hand from
another union to move the chair 2 feet
to the side. If I moved the chair, I
had a grievance filed against me.
How stupid is that? More often than
not, I would ask the stage hand on
duty to move the chair, but he would
look over the top of his newspaper and
say, "you can move it. I don't care".
But, the mniute I forgot to ask, he would
get all huffy and start making noise about
a grievance.

The union crackpots on this forum are all
mouth and no action. Don't let them get
the best of you.
 
This is not about the 'old' US Airways. This is about the 'new' US Airways trying to prove how smart they are, and failing miserably.
 
a320av8r said:
"...Most reasonable people would..."
-EricLV2Fish

Therein lies the problem when dealing with PHL.
[post="309319"][/post]​

I wouldn't classify the folks on this board as a majority in Philly or anywhere for that matter. Most of us have heard the saying that "Less than 10% of personnel create 90% of the personnel issues". We outnumber the glass half empty folks 9 to 1 the way I see it. They just yell instead of communicating and make more noise. The problems in Philly have to start with getting the right equipment where it needs to be. Wheter it be fixing it, buying it...whatever it takes. First things First...support the people there and see what happens and take the next step.
 
Dog Wonder said:
So after wading through 17 pages of mostly argumentative posts the information that could possibly be considered valid is some HP trainers went to PHL and tried (after being told not to) to make the people working there look bad by acting like they could do it better..

DUMB, DUMB, DUMB. They couldn't have picked a worse place to do it. All they proved was their own bad judgement.

It has nothing to do with good customer service. Only a bad attitude on the part of some HP imports toward the employees at PHL.
[post="309314"][/post]​

Incorrect, They've proven MUCH more than that. They've proven that the staff in PHL are paranoid, defensive, and antagonistic. And you are SO wrong on another point....it's ALL about customer service.....who do you think pays for all this #### anyway? Now, I lived in PHL for almost 10 years...I know the "flavor" of the people, and I loved living in PHL...this is NOT an affront on anything other than inspiring or otherwise causing PHL to get in line with the rest of the system. Everyone understands airport and WX limitations, but beyond that...it's unacceptable for the collective future of this company.
 
From what I have read the flight wasn't scheduled to leave for more than an hour when the 'experts' intevened. If you have limited resources you use them where you need them. A flight leaving in an hour is not a priority.

Unless some ignoramus, who has been told not to be one, ignores good advice.
 
Hey osuNUT,

Glad to see you cant debate and you all you can do is insult.

Grow up.
 

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