Hi Ho its off to Jail they go

[PITbull]

But you still have to represent them

Correct.

 

[hp_fa]

Why is it a Presidential blow-job is impeachment-worthy, but leaking a NOC, warantlessly spying on Americans, and torturing prisoners of war is not?

We're at war? Funny, we were when Clinton got impeached, and that didn't slow the SOB's down for a second.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sh...o/etc/cron.html

That pretty well covers it.

 

[delldude]

That pretty well covers it.

who gives a sh*t if they are torturing POW's?

i'm sure family of the twin towers have issues here.... :down:

BJ Bill lied over and over...he didn't release a BJ.....

dem controlled press releases all kind of NOC's when they're in the driver seat.....happens on the other guys watch its treason...get real. :down:

would be a non-issue if she had kept her mouth shut!

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim,

I've always regarded your posts as intelligent and well thought out. Even this one.

Our views are only polar in certain instances. There are many, and I mean many folks in this country that would like to be represented by a union, but are too afraid of the reprisel to start a grass roots effort.

I know from first hand experience how difficult it is and was fired from my nursing job in 1996 from a nursing home in Pittsburgh. I was told by the VP of organizing that management would come after me, so I was prepared to sacrifice a part-time job because I had comfort that I had my U job as my main job and livilihood. I dotted all my "i" and crossed all my "t"s in the process of the termination. It took them 5 weeks through their discipline process to terminate me (I had that job for 4 years 20 hours per week and was never late and never called off, ever). So, as the story goes at 1199P, with the union by side, took it to the labor board and WON retro active pay 14 months worth...in the meantime, I was invovlved in negotiating the nurses first contract the entire time. It was extremely satisfying to have the management sit across from me during by separation from them. LOL..

This started my affinity to labor, not that you asked or cared... B)

My point, the 92% that is non-union would be much reduced if they could risk their own job to organize. Folks are in their comfort zone and can't take a risk like I could. Many men in labor have families to support and can't risk even a temporary termination...I just happened to have the greatest VP, Neal Bisno of 1199P relentlessly protecting me and grooming me and giving me the voice and the strength to make it all the way. Those organizers are true champions for union.

I do recognize that currently we have some pretty weak leaders in these high union positions. Some are corrupt (i've met them, trust me in different unions) in the sense that they hold these positions for the wrong reasons. Some how they can "snow" the membership (like some representatives in Congress) and get elected.

Interesting.

 

[700UW]

who gives a sh*t if they are torturing POW's?

i'm sure family of the twin towers have issues here.... :down:

BJ Bill lied over and over...he didn't release a BJ.....

dem controlled press releases all kind of NOC's when they're in the driver seat.....happens on the other guys watch its treason...get real. :down:

would be a non-issue if she had kept her mouth shut!

Lets see did anyone of our soldiers die when Clinton lied about a bj?

NOPE,

But over a thousand have because of Bush's LIES!

 

[brown]

Lets see did anyone of our soldiers die when Clinton lied about a bj?

NOPE,

But over a thousand have because of Bush's LIES!

Well 700, as much as we have our differences on the union issues, I couldn't agree with you more!!!!! I am sure the 7-8 of us who argue about unions are, and I hope in the most part on the same wave as far as this nut president of ours, (careful we are being watched) :down:

 

[Richard]

This thread is about the IAM/TWU incident, not presidential politics. Let's get it back on topic folks.

 

[brown]

who gives a sh*t if they are torturing POW's?

i'm sure family of the twin towers have issues here.... :down:

BJ Bill lied over and over...he didn't release a BJ.....

dem controlled press releases all kind of NOC's when they're in the driver seat.....happens on the other guys watch its treason...get real. :down:

would be a non-issue if she had kept her mouth shut!

I thought being a union member from PIT of all places you wouldn't find a right wing nut job, Come on man is that all the right wingers can talk about is Clinton? This country was in the best shape I can remember when that guy was in office, Your post borders on insanity!!!! If I remember correctly don't the republicans controll every part of Government, including the Supreme Court? Seems we are in pretty bad shape, (unless you are part of the 29% who support this nut case in charge :down:

 

[fanlube]

who gives a sh*t if they are torturing POW's?

i'm sure family of the twin towers have issues here.... :down:

BJ Bill lied over and over...he didn't release a BJ.....

dem controlled press releases all kind of NOC's when they're in the driver seat.....happens on the other guys watch its treason...get real. :down:

would be a non-issue if she had kept her mouth shut!

You right wingers hate Clinton because he lied, yet this clown in office now has told more lies than Pinocchio!! I love how you guys blame the media, if their was something positive to report maybe his ratings wouldn't be in the tank! What policies have the Bush group and his rePUPlican yes men implemented that has helped the working men and woman of this country. None!! It figures you would by into the Bush doctrine. Remember it's easy to be a republican there is absoultley no thinking involved you just do what some body tells you to. It happens in the house and senate everyday! Im sure your kids and grandkids will appreciate the massive debt Bush is passing on to them but hey you got yours right!

 

[Richard]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Once again--this thread is about the incident between the IAM and TWU. If you want to discuss politics please take it to the Water Cooler.

Final warning-if political discussion continues here the thread will be closed.

Thank you

 

[delldude]

Lets see did anyone of our soldiers die when Clinton lied about a bj?

NOPE,

But over a thousand have because of Bush's LIES!

SOMALIA......BOSNIA....KOSOVO....DUH?

What policies have the Bush group and his rePUPlican yes men implemented that has helped the working men and woman of this country. None!!

and of dem legislation that helped you and me?

 

[PITbull]

I thought being a union member from PIT of all places you wouldn't find a right wing nut job, Come on man is that all the right wingers can talk about is Clinton? This country was in the best shape I can remember when that guy was in office, Your post borders on insanity!!!! If I remember correctly don't the republicans controll every part of Government, including the Supreme Court? Seems we are in pretty bad shape, (unless you are part of the 29% who support this nut case in charge :down:

"uh,ditto that to the 100th power"...

As an aside...anyone have the accurate information if the 22 or part of have been arrested?

 

[delldude]

"uh,ditto that to the 100th power"...

As an aside...anyone have the accurate information if the 22 or part of have been arrested?

word was voluntarily turning themselves in for arrainment I believe.

unemployment rate now lower than under billy?

Unemployment Rate:
4.7% in Apr 2006

 

[700UW]

SOMALIA......BOSNIA....KOSOVO....DUH?
and of dem legislation that helped you and me?

There was no lies involved nor deceit in going into those conflicts they were all approved by the UN.

I bet some IAM and TWU members were over there serving and knew why they were there and concrete proof of it.

 

[PITbull]

word was voluntarily turning themselves in for arrainment I believe.

unemployment rate now lower than under billy?

Unemployment Rate:
4.7% in Apr 2006

Dude,

That's because those folks that were on unemployment haven't found jobs, they just have exhausted their 26 weeks and are no longer collecting and no longer part of the statistics. Livable wage jobs are on the decline, except if you are an illegal alien and looking for tax free income and free health care.

With regard to the 22, they are turning themselves in voluntarily? Who requested this?