Holiday Pay should be offered

[JAXPax]

Here is a great incentive......show up and keep your job!!

I am all for extra money on a holiday, but the airline business is a 24/7 365 day a year operation.

When I took this job, I knew it would require weekends, holidays, and long days. This is a fact for ALL departments with the exception of upper management. Although they should work out on the line that day.
Anyway, if you want extra pay for holidays.....punishments for cronic sick calls on Christmas should be harsher.

You should not have to be bribed to come to work.

One thing I've realized is that even with the incentives, those who aren't going to show up on the holiday still aren't going to show up. However, our qualifications on holiday pay certainly help with staffing the remainder of the week.

We have management staff that works the holidays... we rotate them. I have Christmas off this year, but have to spend that day traveling back to work ("Christmas on US Airways"). But, that's the drawback of working for a 24/7/365 operation.

 

[Twicebaked]

First of all, we've only had the ETB for a short while; two X-mases I believe. Secondly, of course you can get a note if you have an illness/injury...it does not matter what "reasonable cause" the company may have!

That is exactly the point. If you are actually injured or sick and can prove it....great. If you were "faking" to have off and can't get a note...to bad. You abused you right.

What does the ETB length have to do with anything? My point was that if you put a trip on and then called off because it wasn't picked up, get a doctor's note or you are fired.

Chapter 2: Work and Conduct Rules FAEM

2-1 Policy

Disciplinary action, not excluding termination from the company may be taken if you:

5. Provide false information
7. Call in sick when not sick or injured
8. Are insubordinate and refuse to follow reasonable orders clearly given by your supervisors.

I am perfect? Absolutely not!
When you have a cronic problem that you have to beg people not to call in sick on the holidays (CBS messages) mgmt needs to crack the whip. AWA does not put up with it AT ALL.

I am getting bored with this. My thoughts still stand firm. lol

Whatever YOU or anyone else decide...have a great holiday

 

[towerclt]

word from down on the ramp is "a few people" will be missing during the holidays & staying with their family..

 

[SKY HIGH]

Doesn't seem to help a bit.

As a matter-of-fact, F/As are offering up to $100 dollars on ETB to GIVE-UP their trips!!!!

sky high states: OF COURSE NOT. Sheesh, if you've been on "reserve" for the past DECADE........what would you want? Be home for the holidays or WORK EVERY XMAS since 1989? decisions....decisions?


only stating opinions.

 

[SKY HIGH]

Here is a great incentive......show up and keep your job!!

You should not have to be bribed to come to work.

sky high states: Why NOT? If a company is having trouble keeping it's workers, then there's a problem. Whether it's a holiday or not. What's the attrition rate on the ramp? Inflight? in the terminal?
This company is giving away thousands and thousands of FREE tickets from the Bank of America Cards. They throw thousands and thousands of "miles" at customer complaint problems.
Yet, they know this is a problem, year after year and treat it with INDIFFERENCE.
yOU HAVE TO WONDER, ARE THE EMPLOYEES PAID SO LOW NOW THAT THEY DONT CARE...........I say the answer shows in the monthly: http://www.bts.gov/press_releases/2006/dot.../dot111_06.html

.......the results dont convey a company with a positive culture.



only stating opinions.

 

[pilot]

You are correct...less than 25

Although it seems unfair to have to work holidays after so many years, our company specifically went backwards. I don't have the right, nor does anyone else, to decide that I have put enough time in and call of sick. Again, I KNEW the job required holidays. Is it fair? No, but IT IS THE JOB.

You miss the point. We all know what the job entails. What you are missing is WHY folks aren't coming in on Christmas.

And if anyone needs to spell it out for you then you are way out to lunch.

And don't give me that crap about quitting. The people who work for LCC have many more years than the moronic management who "lead" this entity. The money boys who aren't interested in the "assets" known as employees. And therein lies your Christmas problem.

"THE JOB" as you put it is spelled out in both company and union worke rules. And as long as those rules are followed, to the letter of the contracts, no one is going to get fired.

And if that involves a doctors excuse, then that is what it involves.

 

[Travelpro72]

I have to say that I agree with Twicebaked on the issue of posting a trip for Christmas on the ETB and calling in sick if it was not picked up. Hmmm isn't that strange. If you have a doctors note I guess your in the clear. Now while I agree that we all took this job with a company that runs 7days a week, 24hours a day, 365days a year this is not what many of us signed up for. Many of us love our jobs but feel that we are not appreciated at times. Management DOES have to have some sort of relationship going or your business fails. You cannot rule with an iron fist. If so results will be disastrous. It does not matter if the America West management won't put up with it or not. The fact is many have time put in and to no fault of their own find themselves working christmas for years and years. True you have the ability to quit if you don't like but should we have to? Is that really the answer for anything that management in the past has done and we won't accept? LEAVE? No it is not. Bottom line is if you are off for christmas great. If you are scheduled to work and call off have an excuse to cover your behind. If you do call off and don't have real reason you should be prepared to deal with the outcome. I see both sides of it.

 

[flygirl74]

Someone told me that United has true holiday pay...not our complicated calculus formula which equals about 60 bucks extra. "They" also said that holidays go so senior that one would need 50-60 years seniority to hold it. No one will call out sick if they are getting TRUE double pay, not just time and a half on FLYING hours.
No brainer.

 

[Travelpro72]

Fly this is so true. It is not just an airline that has sick calls spike on christmas. Though it is your job to show up for your shift it would a great way for management to say, "Thank You" for keeping the money rolling in while your children and family open presents and celebrate without you. Again, we know it's the job but it's a nice. Imagine a holiday going senior. I sure can't.