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Junebug172 said:
I've got my 401k and its building nicely.

How about them pennies on the dollar?
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Glad to hear the 401K is building nicely. What additional amout was it you get now to match the East? Was it 3% or 4 %? You can thank the East for that.

Too bad you missed the 40K that we got added to our 401K from the company. The recall guys get it too.

Pennies from heaven!!!!!!!!!!!
 
BottomFeeder said:
You quit, resigned, left, beat feet, or what ever you call it from TWA. Then you were HIRED by UAL at a latter time in life.

Not the case for this one Mr. United. There was no hiring, resigning, so you are WRONG once again.
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No, I believe you are wrong.

I was hired by UAL while working for TWA. After accepting the job with another ALPA airline, I THEN resigned from my current ALPA airline. My years with ALPA even rolled over, uninterrupted, and I got my 10 year wings based on my hire date at TWA even though I was working for UAL. How come I didn't take my pay scale and seniority with me???? Where were you when I needed someone to cry to ALPA that there were lesser pilots with less years of service ahead of me on the seniority list??? Oh yeah... Because I was right with my first assertion. DOH does not transfer from one airline to another. It doesn't transfer in a merger either. Just read the merger policy. It's in the same document that spells out all your other union rights. You don't have the right to pick and choose which ones apply to you and which ones don't.

The day your 2 airlines merged, they both ceased to exist and everyone was now a new employee of the new USAirways, and their seniority was subject to each labor group's merger policy. Hence the snapshot that ALPA takes at that date, of what your position is at that moment.

Just remember that USAirways could just as easily have been named America West, or some other name completely. (Just like ValueJet becoming AirTran overnight.) The name choice was a marketing decision. Try not to let the name painted on the side of the airplane cloud your judgment or give you delusions of superiority. Remember who's management team took over, and where the HQ is located. Your DOH adjusted for YOS with restrictions etc. etc. is, was, and will continue to be a nonstarter.

For all the chest beating and rhetoric, the claims of superior airmanship, the self righteous claim to entitlement, the self pitty and arrogant feelings that somehow your sacrifices are worth more than others, your threats and lack of integrtiy, you guys really come across as a bunch of unprofessional amateurs.
 
767jetz said:
No, I believe you are wrong.

I was hired by UAL while working for TWA. After accepting the job with another ALPA airline, I THEN resigned from my current ALPA airline. My years with ALPA even rolled over, uninterrupted, and I got my 10 year wings based on my hire date at TWA even though I was working for UAL. How come I didn't take my pay scale and seniority with me???? Where were you when I needed someone to cry to ALPA that there were lesser pilots with less years of service ahead of me on the seniority list??? Oh yeah... Because I was right with my first assertion. DOH does not transfer from one airline to another. It doesn't transfer in a merger either. Just read the merger policy. It's in the same document that spells out all your other union rights. You don't have the right to pick and choose which ones apply to you and which ones don't.

The day your 2 airlines merged, they both ceased to exist and everyone was now a new employee of the new USAirways, and their seniority was subject to each labor group's merger policy. Hence the snapshot that ALPA takes at that date, of what your position is at that moment.

Just remember that USAirways could just as easily have been named America West, or some other name completely. (Just like ValueJet becoming AirTran overnight.) The name choice was a marketing decision. Try not to let the name painted on the side of the airplane cloud your judgment or give you delusions of superiority. Remember who's management team took over, and where the HQ is located. Your DOH adjusted for YOS with restrictions etc. etc. is, was, and will continue to be a nonstarter.

For all the chest beating and rhetoric, the claims of superior airmanship, the self righteous claim to entitlement, the self pitty and arrogant feelings that somehow your sacrifices are worth more than others, your threats and lack of integrtiy, you guys really come across as a bunch of unprofessional amateurs.
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You have a anger problem and no life. I would bet that if UAL merged with JB you would staple there butts quicker then you run your mouth. Nobody wants to hear your crap pal. By the way, you have no freakn Idea what you are talking about.
 
Hawkhunter said:
You have a anger problem and no life. I would bet that if UAL merged with JB you would staple there butts quicker then you run your mouth. Nobody wants to hear your crap pal. By the way, you have no freakn Idea what you are talking about.
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Hmmm... I don't see anywhere that I sounded angry. I haven't attacked anyone. And please spare me with the JB garbage again. I have been very consistent and clear about my position on merger integration. Relative seniority based on what you bring to the table is the only fair solution. And I have clearly stated on this board many times that I would not support a staple job if UA bought JB.
 
What is going to be interesting is when United's assets are called US Airways.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
USA320Pilot said:
What is going to be interesting is when United's assets are called US Airways.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: Yeah, like all the other super secret imaginary source predictions, .....dayammmmm, this is too funny to be real. And the laughs just keep on coming! :lol: :lol: :lol:

That is entertainment! :up:
 
TheLarkAscending said:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Yeah, like all the other super secret imaginary source predictions, .....dayammmmm, this is too funny to be real. And the laughs just keep on coming! :lol: :lol: :lol:

That is entertainment! :up:
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Excuse me. What is your point, what are your views.

Quote from Richard, moderator,

"Too many threads are being drawn off topic and are becoming sniping grounds with personal attacks "

What do you call quotes from this individual. Check the history, it is non stop sniping.
 
nostradamus said:
Excuse me. What is your point, what are your views.

Quote from Richard, moderator,

"Too many threads are being drawn off topic and are becoming sniping grounds with personal attacks "

What do you call quotes from this individual. Check the history, it is non stop sniping.
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Nos, shuush!!

You need to be focusing on making crew meals and going over your C172's EO procedures.
 
767jetz said:
No, I believe you are wrong.

I was hired by UAL while working for TWA. After accepting the job with another ALPA airline, I THEN resigned from my current ALPA airline. My years with ALPA even rolled over, uninterrupted, and I got my 10 year wings based on my hire date at TWA even though I was working for UAL. How come I didn't take my pay scale and seniority with me???? Where were you when I needed someone to cry to ALPA that there were lesser pilots with less years of service ahead of me on the seniority list??? Oh yeah... Because I was right with my first assertion. DOH does not transfer from one airline to another. It doesn't transfer in a merger either. Just read the merger policy. It's in the same document that spells out all your other union rights. You don't have the right to pick and choose which ones apply to you and which ones don't.

The day your 2 airlines merged, they both ceased to exist and everyone was now a new employee of the new USAirways, and their seniority was subject to each labor group's merger policy. Hence the snapshot that ALPA takes at that date, of what your position is at that moment.

Just remember that USAirways could just as easily have been named America West, or some other name completely. (Just like ValueJet becoming AirTran overnight.) The name choice was a marketing decision. Try not to let the name painted on the side of the airplane cloud your judgment or give you delusions of superiority. Remember who's management team took over, and where the HQ is located. Your DOH adjusted for YOS with restrictions etc. etc. is, was, and will continue to be a nonstarter.

For all the chest beating and rhetoric, the claims of superior airmanship, the self righteous claim to entitlement, the self pitty and arrogant feelings that somehow your sacrifices are worth more than others, your threats and lack of integrtiy, you guys really come across as a bunch of unprofessional amateurs.
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Mr. United,

Boy you keep this up and you are going to move ahead of your rival for being WRONG again.

By all means DOH does transfer on a merger. YOS of service also transfers. Just because United want the ALPA policy changed and head DOH removed from the policy does not remove it from the the rest of the world.

Don't attempt to relate your quiting/hiring to a merger.

Did you have a NEW company with TED?

Go ahead and spin-away
 
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