IAM Withdraws NMB Election Application

[southwind]

Okay, Delta pays me.....doesn't mean I would support them come hell or high water. Example, I was quite pissed when they took a political stance on immigration, how do you feel about the company being pro let them all in and live off the tax payers? You must like it because, after all, "Delta puts a roof over your head"  

Again, I will state, I would not like the idea that they might be involved card fraud but, again "THEY" put food in my mouth not a union, whom I could kick to the curb because I don't depend on them for said food!

And again, would like to see a full investigation, concerning this issue!

Any more questions you want me to answer for the 3rd or 4th time?

 

[700UW]

http://www.iamdelta.net/2015/04/10/nmb-dismisses-case/

"The IAM more than anyone else wants to know who is responsible for the submission of faulty cards, and what measures can be taken to ensure that this and other representation campaigns cannot be similarly disrupted in the future. Our organizing drive to obtain economic justice for Delta Flight Attendants will continue and we will keep you apprised of developments."

 

[WorldTraveler]

I'm sure it saddens you that the whistle on that page was actually used by DL FAs to report fraud to the NMB
who was not the least bit amused about spending months of time reviewing cards which were in their mind fraudulently signed AND submitted.

regardless of what DL employees or other labor activists might have done regarding the signing part, the IAM is fully responsible for the submission

 

[townpete]

http://www.iamdelta.net/2015/04/10/nmb-dismisses-case/
"The IAM more than anyone else wants to know who is responsible for the submission of faulty cards, and what measures can be taken to ensure that this and other representation campaigns cannot be similarly disrupted in the future. Our organizing drive to obtain economic justice for Delta Flight Attendants will continue and we will keep you apprised of developments."

"As we explained, withdrawing our application instead of awaiting a final determination from the National Mediation Board (“NMB”), which could take many, many months given the agency’s slow pace, provided the best opportunity to secure union representation for Delta’s Flight Attendants as quickly as possible."

That there has to the utmost weakest, pathetic, eyerolling explanation ever.

NMB was taking forever so before they were about to rule a determination, IAM pulled out because it was taking to long and yeah it was a faster solution to the problem or something I guess. Because justice! lol

 

[townpete]

According to who?

You don't see it because all you see is nails buttercup.

 

[townpete]

Kev is a smarter person than you give him credit for. Just because he is a union advocate doesn't make him blind to reason and facts... Unlike some other posters.

Now that's a howler for sure!

 

[robbedagain]

being a pro union myself  I too would like to see the entire results of this outcome   Whether or not the IAM or DL provided wrong info   all the details shall be known.    P rez thoroughly said it best in his post  and its quite possible that is indeed what happened at DL  but I would not be shocked if DL mgmt. has a lot of crap or threats to help dampen those who want a union.   It has occurred at EN  I was there for that 2 times and the 2nd time the CWA was voted in.  Of course the card drive for DL ACS is or hopefully is on going and hope to see them join the union   Clearly a union is needed at DL

 

[WorldTraveler]

again, you cling to the hope that DL mgmt. will be found to have done something wrong when what is most basically clear is that IAM used DL employee numbers which are DL property to do a survey. The IAM, not DL employees did the survey. The IAM is fully responsible for using stolen data. The precedent has already been set as to who committed wrong but you and others can't admit it.

IAM's DL employee supporters might have fraudulently signed cards or it might have been the IAM itself and it might have been non- DL employee, non IAM employees.

but the NMB wants to find out who did it - and to continue to hold onto the notion that DL mgmt. did it is simply another one of the unfounded and stupid accusations that will be proven wrong.

and P. Rez just like you ignore half of the facts to come up with the conclusion they want.

DL FAs from the time the IAM made its application for a vote said that the IAM or its representatives were calling or contacting DL FAs saying they wanted the FAs to update their card or to provide contact information which was missing from the card.

At least one source said the phone number of the call originated from MN.

Only those who ignore those facts could come to the conclusion that DL mgmt. was part of the campaign.

 

[700UW]

Clueless you are WF.

 

[robbedagain]

and DL has a hub in MN?????   you really have NO CLUE   period   none what so ever   you've been gone for almost a decade and u act like a know it all when it just makes u look like a complete moron

 

[WorldTraveler]

yes, DL has a hub in MN which is precisely why the notion that DL employees were involved in defrauding cards is a very real possibility.

there is ZERO evidence that DL mgmt. was involved in this - but the IAM supporters continue to throw out that accusation in hopes that they won't have to accept responsibility for their own actions.

the Justice Dept. will find out - and I will be here the day they announce their results which I am certain people like Kev, you, and 700 won't want to hear.

 

[700UW]

Evidence?

More lies nothing has been released about what evidence there is or what there isn't.

You are a complete liar making up things.

 

[townpete]

Evidence?
More lies nothing has been released about what evidence there is or what there isn't.
You are a complete liar making up things.

Make up your mind. You continuously lay the blame at DAL's feet, yet say something stupid about nothing being released.

Btw, you have a lot ballz calling anyone a liar when you practically perfected the art of lying.

 

[southwind]

being a pro union myself  I too would like to see the entire results of this outcome   Whether or not the IAM or DL provided wrong info   all the details shall be known.    P rez thoroughly said it best in his post  and its quite possible that is indeed what happened at DL  but I would not be shocked if DL mgmt. has a lot of crap or threats to help dampen those who want a union.   It has occurred at EN  I was there for that 2 times and the 2nd time the CWA was voted in.  Of course the card drive for DL ACS is or hopefully is on going and hope to see them join the union   Clearly a union is needed at DL

 

And "Clearly" why is a union needed if said union is responsible for fraudulent cards?
Or maybe you've conducted "your" own probe and aren't sharing "your" results!


 

Clueless you are WF.

Whatever, Yoda!

 

[robbedagain]

clearly dl mgmt. can and has made changes against their own employees    not all of the ramp is  mainline   you are at will employees     I think those 3 things are as sufficient enough as the list of city slammings dl does and continues to do so    cvg  cargo in some cities etc    rr being very close if not at half that of mainline  yet they don't have benes etc     so clearly the need for union representation is needed