I'm Sorry

[keeptheodds]

Just curious...are all these companies you have mentioned on the previous page staffed with union workers?

 

[barbeetantrums]

Such a mature response, glad to see you can hold an intelligent debate.

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TWEEK!!!

 

[Ch. 12]

Since none of you HP employees have had to work for Crellin, Hemenway or Presti, you have no room to talk.

The three men have ruined the company and its employees in their own unique fashion, but I would not expect any of you to know this since you have not been through four or more paycuts, two bankruptcies in less then two year, managened by threats and intimidations, over 150 planes parked and 20,000 less employees.

When you have walked a mile in the US' employees shoes then you can comment, until then I suggest you listen and watch very carefully as your turn is next.

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I've actually walked several miles in the shoes of both airlines (HP and US) so I'm more than happy to talk on this topic...thanks, though.

My point was that it is already decided by some here that Parker won't be given a chance. Oh wait...I guess it was stated that they gave him a chance but that is over now. Glad that those certain employees that have already written him off even waited for the full materialization of the merger before deciding to dislike their new mgmt.

I had hoped that a new perspective (HP) would help the few disgruntled U employees but that does not seem to be the case. I repeat...get out if you won't like any mgmt thrown your way. By staying with the merged company you are only spreading this nasty cancer.

 

[700UW]

And who died and made you God? Who are you to tell people to get out?

You dont see the devastation that goes on everyday at US, you don't see mistake after mistake made everyday by the gang of thieves at CCY.

Not one manager nor executive was held responsible for the X-mas meltdown, the company even lied and tried to blame rampers and F/As for it.

Yet even when the DOT clearly blamed management not one of the executives stepped up to the plate and apologized or accepted responsiblity.

Even a Comair senior executive resigned because of their X-mas meltdown.

I could go on for days about the blunders CCY has made, any company that has squandered several billion dollars in employee concession and end up back in bankruptcy twice in a year and half has a serious management problem.

 

[Ch. 12]

And who died and made you God? Who are you to tell people to get out?

You dont see the devastation that goes on everyday at US, you don't see mistake after mistake made everyday by the gang of thieves at CCY.

Not one manager nor executive was held responsible for the X-mas meltdown, the company even lied and tried to blame rampers and F/As for it.

Yet even when the DOT clearly blamed management not one of the executives stepped up to the plate and apologized or accepted responsiblity.

Even a Comair senior executive resigned because of their X-mas meltdown.

I could go on for days about the blunders CCY has made, any company that has squandered several billion dollars in employee concession and end up back in bankruptcy twice in a year and half has a serious management problem.

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I'm telling those that are already saying that HP mgmt will be bad even w/o having ANY experience with them need to get out. I am not God...just hoping that this merger can be successful. IMHO this merger is necessary for the U employees to get better mgmt and turn morale around. But I completely stand by my statement that if you aren't willing to be part of the solution (i.e. accepting or at least giving the new mgmt a REAL chance), you're part of the problem and U/HP does not need that right now. Already saying that Parker is no good is ridiculous and can only negatively impact this merger. If these statements make me God, then so be it, but I think rather that I just speak common sense. It's refreshing from time to time...you should try it.

 

[Hope777]

I would LOVE to be part of the Solution, However U Management does not want the assistance. In Our Station, I can SAVE U almost a half MILLION anually by changing very little. The only saving grace, is that the HP Station Manager sees what is going on and just shakes his head. A Half Million from just one Station. It is very Sad but the MORONS in CCY could care less about making money.

 

[etops1]

people, people, please.!! take a chill pill. stop getting all fired up over stupidity!!! i have to side with the hp people on this one. stop b##ching so much about the new managemnt team . there are only 12 us people onboard. i am sure parker will deal with them appropriatley( hope i spelled that right.) and please stop playing the seniority card. that's not cool at all. we need to start getting along here . seriously. for the hp group. please do not listen to anything 700 sais . he is so bitter you can taste it. i am all fo making this merger work. it is the minority of us employees who feel this way not the majority. once again stop the seniority card . emotions are already high . no need to stir the pot.

 

[barbeetantrums]

And who died and made you God? Who are you to tell people to get out?

You dont see the devastation that goes on everyday at US, you don't see mistake after mistake made everyday by the gang of thieves at CCY.

Not one manager nor executive was held responsible for the X-mas meltdown, the company even lied and tried to blame rampers and F/As for it.

Yet even when the DOT clearly blamed management not one of the executives stepped up to the plate and apologized or accepted responsiblity.

Even a Comair senior executive resigned because of their X-mas meltdown.

I could go on for days about the blunders CCY has made, any company that has squandered several billion dollars in employee concession and end up back in bankruptcy twice in a year and half has a serious management problem.

[post="289197"][/post]​

You may be happier finding employment elsewhere after the merger. Have you ever considered being a truck driver? They can have a bad attitude all day and not be a downer to a coworker as you will always work alone. Or is that what makes your job so fun, bringing everyone down?

 

[700UW]

One cancer cell can do damage, just look a Crellin's performance, how does he still have a job?

And please show me in any of my posts where I have said anything bad against HP management, you won't, what I have pointed out is the failures that Doug is bring over to HP.

But once again I would not expect you to understand any of it since you have not lived it.

And just wait till the merger happens, I can see the HP employees starting complaining about dovetailing since you are mostly junior.

And you have to stand up and fight againt the injustices, did you not learn anything from Neville Chamberlin?

When I am at work I give it my all, as you dont know because you dont work here, and I have dealt face to face with these so called executives, have you?

Have you presented them a offer that would have saved the majority of the mtc dept at US only to have them laugh at you because they knew they had Judge Mitchell in their pocket?

Like I said, experience it first hand and maybe your eyes will open.

 

[Travelpro72]

We at US have been beaten down so badly by our management over the years that some find it next to impossible to trust anyone. Someone on here said we were acting like a bunch of beaten pups. Well when you are a pup that is beaten as much as we have it's hard to trust a new owner. Ever pet a beaten pup before when they shrug away from you and pee on the floor? That is how many feel here. I think many here at US are leary of the new mgmt team. They want to trust him. It's like leaving a few sharks in the tank. They are not good mgmt. people that are comming from US. I MUST force myself to believe that Mr. Parker is bringing them for a reason. It also AMAZED ME on my last 4 day trip how "uneducated" many flight crew are about what is going on.

 

[desertgal]

I agree with those who feel its a bad idea to bring over certain mgmnt types from US.
I can only hope that Doug has some bigger plan we don't understand yet.
If someone has proven that they suck at running an airline, why would we want them here?
Especially since most agree that employee integration and morale are neccessary for a successful merge.
And I believe that the U employees HAVE been running the airline, IN SPITE of their bad mgmnt, and its because of everything they've given up, yet those who still chose to come to work that there is a U for us to merge with.
Barbee, you were a little harsh.

 

[The End]

I'm sorry what was I thinking? Oooo I'm so excited. Oooo every thing will be rosey-posey. Oooo Look at the new paint on the plane. Oooo The U management will add so much. Oooo I can't wait to bump you out of LAS & PHX. Oooo Wait. Ah... Ah... AhAh.. Aaaahhhhhhhhhh. The End

 

[Ch. 12]

700-

If you would have read, you would have known that I have indeed dealt with U's inept mgmt first-hand. I worked there and have told you that so quit with the exclusionary "you can never understand" arguments b/c I CAN understand. In fact...I can understand far better than you b/c I have alse served under HP mgmt. I know that they are not perfect but are headed in the right direction and things will get better under HP mgmt even if a few U mgmt get in b/c the majority will still be HP. I can have faith b/c I have worked with both sides. Can you say that?

And I never accused YOU of saying that you didn't have faith in Parker. But are you not supporting the notion that the newly merged mgmt is already inept? I can definitely read that from your tone.

Now I do understand that U mgmt has been atrocious and that has led to the worst morale situation I have seen in a loooonnnnnggg time so please don't take my posts as a rah-rah for U mgmt. Rather I am trying to be optimistic b/c the U employees have finally been given a chance to have a mostly new mgmt, perspective, chance and I think that all HP and U employees have to go into this open-minded. Think about the future...not the crap that you dealt with in the past. To already poo poo the merger is blatant ignorance b/c you don't know how it will all turn out. Give it a chance already.

-Ch. 12

 

[LUV2FLYHIGH]

700-

If you would have read, you would have known that I have indeed dealt with U's inept mgmt first-hand. I worked there and have told you that so quit with the exclusionary "you can never understand" arguments b/c I CAN understand. In fact...I can understand far better than you b/c I have alse served under HP mgmt. I know that they are not perfect but are headed in the right direction and things will get better under HP mgmt even if a few U mgmt get in b/c the majority will still be HP. I can have faith b/c I have worked with both sides. Can you say that?

And I never accused YOU of saying that you didn't have faith in Parker. But are you not supporting the notion that the newly merged mgmt is already inept? I can definitely read that from your tone.

Now I do understand that U mgmt has been atrocious and that has led to the worst morale situation I have seen in a loooonnnnnggg time so please don't take my posts as a rah-rah for U mgmt. Rather I am trying to be optimistic b/c the U employees have finally been given a chance to have a mostly new mgmt, perspective, chance and I think that all HP and U employees have to go into this open-minded. Think about the future...not the crap that you dealt with in the past. To already poo poo the merger is blatant ignorance b/c you don't know how it will all turn out. Give it a chance already.

-Ch. 12

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BRAVO AND WELL SAID!!!!

 

[laxtwin]

Why not wait things out? Just because some people with doubltful reputations are on board now doesn't mean they can't be "strategically replaced" at a later date. Best wishes for all of you that will work for the new US Airways.