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Is It Right Screwing Over The Airline Operations

Should people be fired/held accountable for severe disruptions

  • Yes, people should be fired disciplined for this

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, it is just a part of unionism and negotiations, ect.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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DOODY said:
This poll has nothing to do with management!!

It's the "everything is management's fault" society of blame that is magnified at US.

Calling in sick when I'm not, not doing the job that I have agreed to do, etc, is not unethical, dishonorable, or just plain wrong - it's OK because someone else screwed up to.

diogenes said:
Hey, back a chihuahua into a corner, and you'll get bit.

When someone else backs their chihuahua into a corner, I shouldn't get bitten. Especially when the dog has an exit to get away.
 
Guess you people lack reading skills.

700UW said:
It is inexcusable, but it is human nature since all that has transpired, I am not saying it is right, just understand why it happens.

You should be thankful you are not here.
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700UW said:
If you take the time read the posts, you would know I have said I do not condone people abusing their sick time.

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700UW said:
Figures you would say that.

The terminations would not stick worth a darn, have to follow the steps of just cause.

It would give the majority of the folks a paid extended vacation.

I do not condone abuse of sick time, but for $15 anyone can go to their Dr and get a note.
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700UW said:
Don't label all the good employees because of 200. There are 29,000 full time equivalent employees that is 1% of the group.

Listen the morale is bad, I don't condone anyone abusing sick time, but folks do a reality check, the situation is horrible and people don't care anymore, they are working for 21% less while the CEO who makes $425,000 a year could not give back a cent.

Just relax take it in stride, most people figured out something like this would happen.

It is a self-fulfilling situation.

Merry X-Mas, just got back from Church with my son and his mother.
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Point proven, and you can fire them they will just get thier jobs back with backpay as you cant terminate someone for one sick call.
 
700UW said:
Guess you people lack reading skills.
Point proven, and you can fire them they will just get thier jobs back with backpay as you cant terminate someone for one sick call.
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The only point proven is that you are a union lacky who does not have the backbone to CONDEMN these actions. No doubt you will be right there defending the pond scum trying to get their jobs back. as you are already making excuses for them. GDAT.
 
Can you not read?
In four differant posts I have stated "I don't condone the abuse of sick time"

Do you have a comprehension problem?

And the union's by law have to represent them it is called the Duty of Fair Representation.

I won't be defending anyone, my workgroup came to work and I am on another more important assignment at the moment.

Maybe we should fire Lakefield, Crellin and Glass for creating this mess.

Maybe we should sue Wolf, Gangwal, Nagin, Siegel and Cohen for the same and get the $42 million back they left with.

LEARN TO READ.
 
700UW said:
Can you not read?
In four differant posts I have stated "I don't condone the abuse of sick time"

Do you have a comprehension problem?

And the union's by law have to represent them it is called the Duty of Fair Representation.

Maybe we should fire Lakefield, Crellin and Glass for creating this mess.

Maybe we should sue Wolf, Gangwal, Nagin, Siegel and Cohen for the same and get the $42 million back they left with.

LEARN TO READ.
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I read very well. You have not condemned any one. In every post you have made excuses and blamed management for all that is going on. Why don't you take a little responsibility for the actions of your union brother and sisters. Or are you simply not a man enough to do it? Are you afraid of what your union brothers and sisters might do to you if you for once took the right stand?

The is a big difference in CONDEMNING something and not condoning it, or don't you understand the basic English language.?
 
700UW said:
Maybe we should fire Lakefield, Crellin and Glass for creating this mess.

They didn't create this problem. The employees that aren't actually sick are the ones to blame. I don't see you working today dumping lavs? I didn't have a choice whether I wanted to work today or not. I was more than willing to spend my holiday helping our passengers on my day off.

I credit Crellin for sending the necessary managers to resolve the PHL fiasco. Kudos to him and his group.
 
If they treated the employees with respect and dignity instead of stealing from them, maybe this never would have happened.

My workgroup did not sickout, so there is no need for me to be there, and I am on a more important assignment as we speak.

And my words stand, I don't condone sick time abuse. That says it all.

And I am not making excuses, it is reality.

You are not a US employee you are not living wether to put food on your table or pay the bills.

You don't see your company telling you we want to layoff 50% of your workgroup.

If you expect people not to react after they have been lied to and stolen from and all ready given back over $2.4 Billion in concessions and 20,000 jobs, then I suggest you get a serious reality check.

What is so special about Bruce Lakefield who has NO airline experience to make more then Neeleman from Jetblue or Parker from Southwest?

And if you have not notices WN and B6 are profitible US is not.

Leadership starts at the top and if someone making 30K has to take a 21% paycut, Brucie can open his wallet too.
 
Industry Observer said:
I credit Crellin for sending the necessary managers to resolve the PHL fiasco. Kudos to him and his group.
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I don't give any credit to Al Crellin and his group at all. Zero. This has been building up for a long time. I have had these exact issues in PHL with no one to load or unload planes, no one to park or push back planes, no jet way operators, with no management or supervisors in sight, months ago. It was just on a smaller scale than the last couple days.

I had several more than one hour delays for baggage loading, after the passenger loading was complete, at the beginning of the week. Again with no management, certainly not Al Crellin and his group to be seen at PHL. Station Manager not in his office, and no one answering the phone there either. You’d have to be an idiot to not see this building up as the week progressed.

These issues have been apparent long ago. The fact the he and others let it get to this point should be the cause of his resignation or termination, as well as others. I also condemn those that decided to call in sick when they were not, and they should face the music as well.

supercruiser
 
How could anyone suport this action. Thousands of holiday people. Parents and their kids, military men and women not home for god knows when, able to get a week pass. Live guard flights saving lives. Shamefull. Surve them right for the Co. to rip up the F/A T/A , ask the judge to put them all on a two year contract like Blue. What a bunch of losers.
The PHL rampers that called in should be fired Dec.26. If this place tanks, which it might now, they'll never see unenployment.
 
Jetblue uses five year employment contracts.
 
How great it must be at Southwest these days, you don't need a strategy against US, just let their management and unions form a circular firing squad, and go pick up the pieces.

If you hate your company, quit, but delibrately sabotaging the operations on christmas when your customers need you is wrong, there is no way to spin it or use cognative dissonance, it is wrong. :down:
 
I do not think that this was a so called "work action" or planned in any way. However, some times you have to make a choice about how you want to spend your holiday....with strangers or family and friends....in these "TRYING" times at US, US may not survive, but, your family will be there. I DID NOT call in sick, however I saw it coming months ago.......Did Management? I GUESS NOT!!!

I, too, hate to see our Pax stranded.....but, they don't care whether US survives or not, it's ALL ABOUT THE FARES!!!! They will be back if we are the cheapest seat....if US is still here. Happy Holidays! MERRY CHRISTMAS!
 
You're right about that Baja. These bus station pax that badmouth U on TV will be back next week if the fare is low enough. The American public deserves the kind of air transportation system that it's turning into.
 
The Wal-Marting of America is happening in all sectors.

American business needs to remember what Henry Ford said," I have to pay my employees enough so they can afford to buy the cars they produce."
 

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