Is It Right Screwing Over The Airline Operations

[tadjr]

I have to chime in on this one. I GAVE UP my day off today so two people could be with their family and got SCREWED royally. If anyone called in and DOESNT have a Drs note, I say fire their ass. I've had more people yell at me today (Merry Christmas, BTW), than any other time I can remember. I worked two flights by myself. I worked Express this am alone and in the rain. I am still soaked to the bone and my socks and feet havent dried off yet. I dont give a f&&* what you say, anyone who called in to prove a point or to spend time with their family because they thought they deserved it screwed me over as well and I DONT APPRECIATE IT! Can the rhetoric, it was WRONG WRONG WRONG and if they dont need the job let them go.
To everyone who did manage to show up today and do their job, thank you. I can see that this week isnt going to get any better. Already have 2 canx full flights for tomorrow and doubling again. Hmmm, should I call out sick?

 

[firstamendment]

I have been critical of the company, but I must say the sick calls were out of control. I switched trips with a friend who so happen to have Christmas off. Had I been in base for the holidays I would have worked. Infact, I called scheduling and told them where I was just in case, however I was pretty much off the beatin path.

While I do not condone the actions of my coworkers, the company has created this monster. Argue all you want, but the middle finger to the comany by calling in sick is something Lakefield should had seen coming. I hope this will be a lesson that the employees have had enough. Oh, yeah, yeah, they should just quit. Once the new year has come, the poor morale issue is going to have to be discussed. How in God's name can these Bozo's expect the workerbees to come out when 90% feel we will be out of business in January anyway?

 

[tadjr]

How in God's name can these Bozo's expect the workerbees to come out when 90% feel we will be out of business in January anyway?

[post="231709"][/post]​

Well unfortunately I think some of the workerbees may have just helped themselves (and all of us) to the last of the honey. Personally if I were in charge of this place, come Jan 6th, I'd be telling the judge to shut it down and be done with it.

 

[firstamendment]

Well unfortunately I think some of the workerbees may have just helped themselves (and all of us) to the last of the honey. Personally if I were in charge of this place, come Jan 6th, I'd be telling the judge to shut it down and be done with it.

[post="231710"][/post]​

Well, Tad,

That has already been done. This is Lakefield and Bronner's self fullfilling prophesy. They have mouthed off about liquidation for sooooo long that most could give a damn anymore. I have a Plan B. I hope you do, too.

 

[TheLazarusman]

There's a song by the Eagle's that goes, "What a tangled web we weave, around with circumstance; can you tell me how to tell the dancer from the dance..." It kind of reminds me of the direction of USAirways these days. IMHO, if they called in sick, and they were just playing hookey, let their a$$e$ fry. Just like chaff to the flame, we'll be cleaner and leaner without them. I would prefer that those who don't want to be here take one giant leap for their fellow employees, and one small step for USAirways and set their feet to walking out the door. To those who remain, God Bless to you and your families this holiday season.
The Lazarusman
FSA Lead
USAirways DFW

 

[BoeingBoy]

This is Lakefield and Bronner's self fullfilling prophesy. They have mouthed off about liquidation for sooooo long that most could give a damn anymore.

[post="231717"][/post]​

Ya know first, you've touched on something that I'm surprised hasn't received more discussion.....

On the one hand, the company has to tell the court that if they don't get everything they want (interim pay cut then abrogation if necessary), we'll have to liquidate. With the unsettled nature of section 1113 of the BK law, that's the only way they can be reasonable certain that the judge will rule in their favor - some jurisdictions have held that the requested action must be necessary to prevent liquidation to be justified. Of course, it the company say's that in their filings and testimony the media reports it.

On the other hand, the November financial numbers filed recently tell a somewhat different story. Yes, losing nearly $2 million a day - not good. But unrestricted cash on hand at the 1st and 30th of Nov more than $100 million above the ATSB requirement (and didn't someone testify that the company was "dangeriously close" to not meeting those requirements?). Unrestricted cash on hand at the 1st and 30th well above the projections presented in support of both the interim cuts and abrogation motions - despite testimony about "more booking away" and the supposedly high fuel cost (supposedly because no one knows in advance what the average fuel cost will be on any given day and only the company knows what our actual past average has been since filing BK but I'll wager it's been lower than the spot price).

Jim

 

[TheLazarusman]

blah blah blah. Weren't we talking about what should happen to employees who screw the operation?

 

[resinboy475]

this is classic poker( the rules have been set by the company) the union checked rasied(thanksgiving to christmas) and the copany had no response they bet al there chips that it would happen on thanksgiving. if you call off sick for the first time in a year or six months they are way within the co rules and you cant touch them per co rules. the co has no backlash the union shows the co they can play witin the rules and win the co has two options to call the buff(if there is a bluf) or raise. my bet is the union set the whole thing up and is raising

 

[resinboy475]

and if the company got set up for this its they are only to blame they pay a good dolar to many peole to tell them that they are being check raised

 

[Finish or Ignore]

I credit Crellin for sending the necessary managers to resolve the PHL fiasco. Kudos to him and his group.

[post="231581"][/post]​

I know you have never worked or been inside a baggage service office, but, have you ever flown before?

 

[TheLazarusman]

this is classic poker( the rules have been set by the company) the union checked rasied(thanksgiving to christmas) and the copany had no response they bet al there chips that it would happen on thanksgiving. if you call off sick for the first time in a year or six months they are way within the co rules and you cant touch them per co rules. the co has no backlash the union shows the co they can play witin the rules and win the co has two options to call the buff(if there is a bluf) or raise. my bet is the union set the whole thing up and is raising

[post="231767"][/post]​

So you think the union can and will protect the jobs of any of those who were and are found to have been 'playing hookey?' You believe the union was behind this and was trying to make a point? This is a sad, sad day if this is true. I want the union to be behind those who came to work; not those who chose to abandon their posts. What point were they trying to make; that leaving your fellow coworkers hanging in the wind is a good thing? Did this event hurt the company? Maybe through future loss of customers. But who did it really hurt? It left fellow employees hanging out to dry. But most of all, it hurt our passengers; who surely didn't deserve what was happening to them. So should those who were not ill who participated in this fiasco be protected by the union? My answer is a resounding, HELL NO!!! Let them fry! We're better off without them. I worked today; and if they chose not to, I would prefer not to have to work again with them. :down:

 

[fatherof2]

Unionism has nothing to do with it! the people feel they are getting screwed by both mgmt and the union and resorted to a form of self help. I can't say that i agree with their decision, but I can certainly empathize.

 

[air chief]

They also don't have hubs, don't interline bags, cockpit crew qualified on all airplanes as they only fly the 737.

Oh wait I forgot the most important thing, they treat their employees with respect and dignity and have not raped them economically and their F/As get OT on holidays.

[post="231662"][/post]​

Forgot one other item....
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THEY ARE PRODUCTIVE!!!!! There.s a word not to be found in any union vocabulary: PRODUCTIVITY

 

[700UW]

Funny WN is the highest % of unionized workers in the industry.

 

[NCFL]

Firing isn't good enough for them. Perhaps those who called in sick should also be drawn and quartered. Or lynched. Or caned. Something public and painful will suffice.