It is true CLT-HNL is no longer

[HP2USFA]

Thanks for the addition info gents!

 

[brokenwrench]

There's also fuel reserve requirements for ETOPS flights to consider. When winds aloft are unfavorable, a re-release point can be used to reduce reserve fuel. TA flights, having several possibilities for places to land during the overwater portion, can make better use of re-release procedures to reduce reserve fuel requirements that the HNL flight can't since there's no potential landing fields between the west coast and Hawaii. That's where the different ETOPS time limits come in.

Jim

You are correct Jim, but speaking strictly to the ETOPS 180 minute certification for this point. Winds are not factored into the 180 minute single engine performance. I.E. you must be within 180 of suitable field with a single engine with no wind. Obviously more fuel must be 'planned" for if enroute winds are present.

 

[strangiatotheme]

Has anyone noticed the odd timing on the East flight that will operate HNL-PHX? It's not a redeye...

 

[HP2USFA]

We have two daily flights to HNL now or we will once the East crew takes over. One early morning PHX departure and one afternoon. They both wont depart at the same time. One will be earlier in the afternoon out of HNL and one will remain the red-eye.