Flight 807 CLT-HNL

[US1YFARE]

So, now bad weather is Management's fault?
:blink:

Kirby, is that you? That pesky jet stream continues to be your nemesis. I'm surprised no one has blamed it on the customers.

 

[BuffaloJoe]

When they try it nonstop, it will be called US MINNOW AIRWAYS!

 

[PHL]

Sources please.

Aside from DL, CO would be the only other airline with a long haul route. Well, they ran it just fine over these last few days without a fuel stop. Does the 767-400 have more fuel capacity and/or range than a 762ER?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/COA15

UA #1 has run without fail, but granted that's using a 744.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL1

And, of little comparison, AA has been doing it without any problems (or storms to divert around)
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL8

 

[Travelpro72]

Maybe the other airlines didn't have to divert due to not carrying heavy equipment or whatever. Just a case of US operating as a ghetto carrier again if ya ask me. Throwing a/c on routes that can barely handle it. If the 767ER can make it, obviously the old model-T version US runs can't. Mele Kalikimaka

 

[BuffaloJoe]

And CLT-HNL is about 300 miles shorter than PHL-ATH

 

[Travelpro72]

Yeah tell me about it. Just look at the 767 operations on the PHL-ATH route. That flight is weight restricted more times than I can count. That a/c should NOT be on that route.

 

[Dog Wonder]

How come there isn't a government subsidy when a flight is against the jetstream?

 

[cltflyer1]

Dogwonder you never have anything positive to say about usairways why do u even bother posting.

 

[FWAAA]

I would think that Great Circle CLT to HNL would be well north of LAX, but apparently not.

I would have thought so also, but it adds only three miles to the trip:

http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=clt-hnl...&MAP-STYLE=

 

[700UW]

airliners.net, AS and DL/NW from sea-hnl

 

[DesertFA66]

This is what makes us F/As look stupid.

This has nothing to do with a "block" of flying, which,'Bother Way', is a term that is exclusive to US Airways (East). Everyone else in the industry calls this a LINE of flying.

This block is a physical thing that has to do with parking an airplane at a gate. You know, the big thing with wings? They are allowed to fly and park anywhere, regardless of who crews them. The PHX hub (as in the airport, not the domicile for F/As) is painting parking places for the 767 in preparations for diversions on the HNL flight.

It's not all about F/As and our scheduling system for crews.

The former fully cross utlitzed FA's at America West would completely understand what this meant.

 

[DesertFA66]

Yeah tell me about it. Just look at the 767 operations on the PHL-ATH route. That flight is weight restricted more times than I can count. That a/c should NOT be on that route.

The intelligence has just been confirmed, you cannot count very high. Those weight restrictions are based on Philly weather more than anything and Athens couldn't support a larger aircraft without deep discounts.

 

[Dog Wonder]

airliners.net, AS and DL/NW from sea-hnl

Must have been very efficient diversions.

NW2219

Seattle/Tacoma (SEA)
Gate S6
Scheduled 8:15am 18 Dec
Actual 8:15am 18 Dec
Honolulu (HNL)
Gate 14
Scheduled 12:31pm 18 Dec
Actual 12:46pm 18 Dec

NW2159

Seattle/Tacoma (SEA)
Gate S8
Scheduled 6:20pm 18 Dec
Actual 6:23pm 18 Dec
Honolulu (HNL)
Gate 22
Scheduled 10:36pm 18 Dec
Actual 11:00pm 18 Dec

 

[Dog Wonder]

Dogwonder you never have anything positive to say about usairways why do u even bother posting.

I am seeking enlightenment.

Don't let your quiche get cold.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Those weight restrictions are based on Philly weather more than anything

Yeah, fighting headwinds for 8 or more hours enroute doesn't affect range at all...it's that darn Philly weather despite the plethora of diversion airports if needed between Newfoundland and DC.

Jim