JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[WeAAsles]

Prez is in there as well, what does he think. I have also heard there is optimism among some that we will be voting on something between the end of Aug and mid Sept.

Can't forget the Rezmeister. He just didn't make a comment on that.

 

[Worldport]

Can't forget the Rezmeister. He just didn't make a comment on that.

One of them said we could have an agreement by fall and went on to say he wouldn't be surprised if we didn't. That's covering ones a$$, but probably the most honest statement

 

[NYer]

NYer, before your battle starts with WeAssles, any equity updates, and will we be voting before Jan. Thanks

 
No battle. It is obvious he is still smarting from his Local's elections. 
 
There have been no updates on the court docket in reference to the Equity. 
 
Hopefully we will vote by then, but at the current pace that is becoming a harder target. 

 

[Worldport]

i want proof of the scope changes Tim    provide proof please    Nonunion  mgmt can do as they plz   DL is a prime example of this area     I dont think nor believe this will be not even close to being as horrid as you seem to make it to be

Robbed he's pulling that out of left field. It's not even worth repeating at worse you would probably see what we had with our last contract 7 flights a day and then there would be grandfather clauses and such. I really wouldn't be concerned

 

[Worldport]

 
No battle. It is obvious he is still smarting from his Local's elections. 
 
There have been no updates on the court docket in reference to the Equity. 
 
Hopefully we will vote by then, but at the current pace that is becoming a harder target. 

It's funny how coveted those jobs are with you guys in the TWU in MIA. Here at the IAM in LGA we don't even have enough people who want to be stewards let alone what your position is. I think you guys might have a few more perks

 

[NYer]

It's funny how coveted those jobs are with you guys in the TWU in MIA. Here at the IAM in LGA we don't even have enough people who want to be stewards let alone what your position is. I think you guys might have a few more perks

 
Not really. There is a small nucleus of capable representatives that have a passion for what they do, but with all the frustrations and political nonsense it gets harder and harder to get people involved. 

 

[AANOTOK]

NYer, I have the the ninth circuit bookmarked, what is the case number or what do I type in? Thanks.

 

[WeAAsles]

Not really. There is a small nucleus of capable representatives that have a passion for what they do, but with all the frustrations and political nonsense it gets harder and harder to get people involved.

Yes Politics. "No comment"

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-tim-canova-sanders-labor-20160608-story.html

 

[NYer]

NYer, I have the the ninth circuit bookmarked, what is the case number or what do I type in? Thanks.

 
Court of Appeals Docket #: 15-15229

 

[AANOTOK]

Thank you

 

[WeAAsles]

It's funny how coveted those jobs are with you guys in the TWU in MIA. Here at the IAM in LGA we don't even have enough people who want to be stewards let alone what your position is. I think you guys might have a few more perks

The MIA President makes $1000.00 per month extra above whatever his status was on the ramp. In the case of the MIA President he makes almost $70,000 per year at the moment. From his position going down the line each officer down to the Steward is given an extra stipend.

Any appointed positions granted are also paid positions which must be accounted for by Law and submitted to the DOL to be disclosed on the end of the year LM2.

So no. Not necessarily is everyone in it for the better interest of the Union because money does get in the way.

 

[robbedagain]

Thx Worldport. I'm not worried. I'll look at it when it comes out.

 

[Kev3188]

i want proof of the scope changes Tim    provide proof please    Nonunion  mgmt can do as they plz   DL is a prime example of this area     I dont think nor believe this will be not even close to being as horrid as you seem to make it to be

Not even the same from station to station. One station does cleaning, one vendors it out. One does POIs, one vendors it out. Etc., etc....

 

[Kev3188]

Robbed he's pulling that out of left field. It's not even worth repeating at worse you would probably see what we had with our last contract 7 flights a day and then there would be grandfather clauses and such. I really wouldn't be concerned

Absent rock solid language, I would be....

The 1 flight/day LOA is the jump off point. Might also note that a certain ATL-based carrier staffs the ramp in a city with 3 mainline flights/day (thank to the IAM CBA at NW)...

 

[Tim Nelson]

i want proof of the scope changes Tim    provide proof please    Nonunion  mgmt can do as they plz   DL is a prime example of this area     I dont think nor believe this will be not even close to being as horrid as you seem to make it to be

i really hope your right robbedagain. For all of us. Presently, you have all the proof you need by comparing what you have with what the cwa has and what non union delta has, and i can assure you that we have crumbs when compared.
I know cb said we will get more than the cwa, and weasel confirmed that but those comments are not confirmed or reference anything other than hope. My comments have been confirmed by the lack of an agreement. If CB or anyone else was offered something better than the cwa, they would have already signed. The proof is your own shiatty paycheck. And thats the story and thats how you know that you werent offered more than the cwa and that weasel is full of it. As far as delta, yes management can do what it wants. But our management was given the ok to contract out more of our stations and to pay us 30% less and with no ps and less of everything else. You are presently living in horrid when compared to delta. Btw delta has about 4,000 more cargo workers than us and more stations than us.