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You best hope it goes that route.

Parker has an obligation.Horton does not depending on who's doing the buying.
Yes Parker does have an obligation. To use the list that he accepted and paid for. The list he is court looking for cover to implement.
 
We all need to be released from our dues obligation to usapa. Nothing to do with a shrink but everything to do with lack of performance.

You have an obsessive compulsive whine and screach induced by haunting apparitions of thieves, marauders, and dark shadows flickering on every bush, while you hear drums in your head beat the song of integrity matters as you feel surrounded by hungry scabs devowering all your possessions.
 
You have an obsessive compulsive whine and screach induced by haunting apparitions of thieves, marauders, and dark shadows flickering on every bush, while you hear drums in your head beat the song of integrity matters as you feel surrounded by hungry scabs devowering all your possessions.
So you are arguing that usapa has performed?Maybe I missed it. what is usapa or any unions main objective? Has usapa accomplished that goal?

We all need to be released from our dues obligation to usapa. Nothing to do with a shrink but everything to do with lack of performance.

Are you saying that your dues money have been well spent and usapa has performed well?
 
You have an obsessive compulsive whine and screach induced by haunting apparitions of thieves, marauders, and dark shadows flickering on every bush,

Nah, don't flatter yourselves. You're just 3000 scabs waiting on a cosmic comeuppance! Aren't you proud of yourselves?
 
But we need your dues to keep fighting for DOH.

Well since they've pretty much guaranteed you'll never see it, it's like the man said, serious lack of performance. Maybe the FOC's need some stiffy pills. B)

Bean
 
They can ask for DOH all they want. There is a new standard
and it's not DOH. It's McCaskill-Bond

The “fair and equitable” standard contained in the Allengheny-Mohawk LLPs was adopted nearly forty years later as part of the McCaskill-Bond Amendment in the wake of what many believed to be the unfair or inequitable treatment of many former TWA employees after its merger with American. However, what is “fair and equitable” in the eyes of one group of employees party to a merger
may not be considered “fair and equitable” to the other group and is likely to be colored by the specifics of each workforce and the economic circumstances of their respective pre-merger firms. This is especially true when two pre-merger firms have diverging economic prospects and/or different histories.
 
Fellow Pilots,
The potential merger of US Airways with American Airlines has entered a new phase. Up until now, US Airways management has spent a substantial amount of time talking to American’s creditors and pursing American’s unions. Doug Parker and his team made vague promises and pronouncements about the benefits of a merger to the USAPA pilots and other unions at US Airways, but engaged in no substantial conversations with us.
That situation has changed.
First a bit of history: In April, shortly after we learned that US Airways had been in talks with the APA, we pressed our position with the Company. Initially US Airways CEO Doug Parker visited USAPA headquarters and said that he didn’t need anything from the pilots to complete a merger with American. Hearing that, we quietly devised an aggressive strategy to ensure that our pilots were not left behind. This strategy and process was ultimately developed by YOU – the membership – through feedback to your Board of Pilot Representatives (BPR) and Officers. Some of the facets of our strategy included:
  • An extensive analysis of the APA term sheet by legal counsel, the BPR, the Negotiating Advisory (NAC), Merger, Business Intelligence and Scope Monitoring Committees.
  • Development and implementation of a communication strategy with the Communications Committee and the newly hired Public Relations consultant.
  • Development and implementation of a plan for Congressional support by the Government Affairs Committee and the General Counsel.
  • Formation of the Union Labor Coalition comprised of all the labor unions representing over 30,000 US Airways employees.
The Board of Pilot Representative then outlined the provisions necessary to address our concerns with the APA term sheet in a proposed Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) which would serve as a baseline of requirements necessary for USAPA to support the proposed merger.
Our strategy now appears to be paying off. What started as a one-day meeting on August 1 with the NAC involved in a series of discussions and negotiations with the Company’s negotiating team and President Scott Kirby, has lasted the remainder of the week and is continuing this week. At the NAC’s invitation, I attended those negotiations as well. The NAC and the Company made substantial progress on a draft MOU, which could not have been attained without the extraordinary efforts of the many players in the process.
There are still a few areas left in the negotiation, and until the legal language is drafted, our Professional Negotiator has requested that specific details of the MOU remain confidential. However, when the language is completed, it will be given to the BPR which will then review it in detail. If approved, it will be sent to you – the membership – for a vote along with a detailed analysis of the pros and cons prepared by the NAC.
While much has been done, we have not and cannot rush into action. Forcing a project to completion could ruin what is almost ripe. Please remain patient and expect an update of further developments soon.

In unity,
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Gary Hummel, President
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Fellow Pilots,
The potential merger of US Airways with American Airlines has entered a new phase. Up until now, US Airways management has spent a substantial amount of time talking to American’s creditors and pursing American’s unions. Doug Parker and his team made vague promises and pronouncements about the benefits of a merger to the USAPA pilots and other unions at US Airways, but engaged in no substantial conversations with us.
That situation has changed.
First a bit of history: In April, shortly after we learned that US Airways had been in talks with the APA, we pressed our position with the Company. Initially US Airways CEO Doug Parker visited USAPA headquarters and said that he didn’t need anything from the pilots to complete a merger with American. Hearing that, we quietly devised an aggressive strategy to ensure that our pilots were not left behind. This strategy and process was ultimately developed by YOU – the membership – through feedback to your Board of Pilot Representatives (BPR) and Officers. Some of the facets of our strategy included:
  • An extensive analysis of the APA term sheet by legal counsel, the BPR, the Negotiating Advisory (NAC), Merger, Business Intelligence and Scope Monitoring Committees.
  • Development and implementation of a communication strategy with the Communications Committee and the newly hired Public Relations consultant.
  • Development and implementation of a plan for Congressional support by the Government Affairs Committee and the General Counsel.
  • Formation of the Union Labor Coalition comprised of all the labor unions representing over 30,000 US Airways employees.
The Board of Pilot Representative then outlined the provisions necessary to address our concerns with the APA term sheet in a proposed Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) which would serve as a baseline of requirements necessary for USAPA to support the proposed merger.
Our strategy now appears to be paying off. What started as a one-day meeting on August 1 with the NAC involved in a series of discussions and negotiations with the Company’s negotiating team and President Scott Kirby, has lasted the remainder of the week and is continuing this week. At the NAC’s invitation, I attended those negotiations as well. The NAC and the Company made substantial progress on a draft MOU, which could not have been attained without the extraordinary efforts of the many players in the process.
There are still a few areas left in the negotiation, and until the legal language is drafted, our Professional Negotiator has requested that specific details of the MOU remain confidential. However, when the language is completed, it will be given to the BPR which will then review it in detail. If approved, it will be sent to you – the membership – for a vote along with a detailed analysis of the pros and cons prepared by the NAC.
While much has been done, we have not and cannot rush into action. Forcing a project to completion could ruin what is almost ripe. Please remain patient and expect an update of further developments soon.

In unity,
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Gary Hummel, President

He's really good at using a lot of words to say nothing.
 
He's really good at using a lot of words to say nothing.

Its ironic that he is suggesting that some secret negotiations are reaching a zenith and about to break into a watershed event to facilitate a merger with American... and on the same day something is happening over at Wallstreet that seems to telegraph a bit the opposite. :unsure:

P.S. Its good to have you back home. The neighbors just called to say they are having chopped liver and spinach soup for dinner, if you want to come over, sorry no substitutes, but you can have double portions. 😉
 
You mean like usapa changing the UOM to restrict the negotiating to only DOH. Talk about a narrow view.

I mean like the West is about about to be carved off like the cancer it is.

Red tie, brief case in hand, bitching about the Nic I see you all at the next job fair.

 
P.S. Its good to have you back home. The neighbors just called to say they are having chopped liver and spinach soup for dinner, if you want to come over, sorry no substitutes, but you can have double portions. 😉

Thanks, it's good to be home. I would not put giblets, gizzards or liver at the top of my menu choices. Thanks anyway. 😉

PS...Where is EastUS? Is he enjoying a vacation in Nebraska at the Airline Forums farm? Or did he join Jim in Alaska?
 
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