Koch Brothers Increased Wealth by $9 Billion Last Year As They Fund Laws to Make Working Class Poore

[delldude]

Since he seems to phrase it as an all or nothing, who pays for the police, fire, hospitals, schools, roads, FAA, airports, ports .... ?

 
Hope you ducked when it went over your head....

 

[Ms Tree]

OK, so you are saying that private charities can raise roughly $2 trillion dollars a year through voluntary contributions?   The $2 trillion is roughly what the US spends on entitlements each year.  In 2012 the US contributed a bit over http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=42#.U5ZO_PldX2Y.  Lets assume for the sake of argument that 50% of entitlements is waste, you are still roughly $700 billion short.
 
You cant just make up information and pretend it's true.  That's not the way reality works.

 

[eolesen]

The fact that there's $2T in entitlements should be the red flag... It's a system that encourages people not to work. The system is supposed to be a crutch, not a prosthetic.

Take away the waste, and reduce the forced taxation of the rich, and I do believe you'd see more voluntary giving.

If private donations could keep all the various Catholic, Presbyterian, Methodist, and Shriners hospitals operating for the 50-100 years that they were around before the health care cartels started taking them over, certainly the money was coming in from somewhere.

Tithing used to average between 5 and 10% in the US. Today, it's below 3% on average, and that's really telling given that the LDS requires 10% tithing to keep a temple admit.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Since he seems to phrase it as an all or nothing, who pays for the police, fire, hospitals, schools, roads, FAA, airports, ports .... ?

 
 
More Liberal BS and you haven't answered the question posed.
 
The Federal Income tax account for about 36% of total federal revenue or roughly the same amount as the TARP bailout.So the other 65% pays for your roards and all the liberal BS argument. No private company ever built the road to nowhere or the "Bud" Schuster Highway. For that kind of waste you need government.

 

[Ms Tree]

Like I said, even if you want to assume 50% waste you are still $700 billion short.  
 
One of the problems I see with your plan is that when times are bad, donations dry up and that is when people need the most assistance.  

 

[Ms Tree]

 
 
More Liberal BS and you haven't answered the question posed.
 
The Federal Income tax account for about 36% of total federal revenue or roughly the same amount as the TARP bailout.So the other 65% pays for your roards and all the liberal BS argument. No private company ever built the road to nowhere or the "Bud" Schuster Highway. For that kind of waste you need government.

So pork spending condemns all of it?  

 

[SparrowHawk]

Like I said, even if you want to assume 50% waste you are still $700 billion short.  
 
One of the problems I see with your plan is that when times are bad, donations dry up and that is when people need the most assistance.  

 
 
Which means we have to REDUCE expenditures to match Income. Pretty Simple. Every household in the US does it. If we went back to the spending levels of Clinton his last year in office we'd have a budget surplus and be reducing debt which would spur growth. Unless of course you have a Printing Press in the basement (Fed) and a debt based (Keynesian) economic system based on what is essentially Monopoly money  
 
http://www.ronpaul.com/media/RestoreAmericaPlan.pdf

 

[Ms Tree]

Take an Econ class.  Running a house is not the same as running a country.  

 

[eolesen]

Not with the current politicians we have it isn't.

But, there's no reason it shouldn't be as simple as "don't spend more than you make"...

 

[Ms Tree]

Not with the current politicians we have it isn't.

But, there's no reason it shouldn't be as simple as "don't spend more than you make"...

Country =/= house.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Take an Econ class.  Running a house is not the same as running a country.  

 
 
Actually it's pretty similar except for one thing. I can't control the value or amount of currency printed.What the Fed so casual calls
QE1 through however many version is essentially inflating away the debt by devaluing the currency which hurts the working class and creates a money flow to the top tier in society. Since the inception of the Federal Reserve the USD has LOST 95% of it's value as a result.
 
Balancing a budget is EXACTLY the same process whether it be a combined take home earnings of $36,000 or a budget of 3.6 Trillion. What changes is the number of zero's.. Instead of resorting to personal insults and deflection why not present 1. An answer to Mr. Williams Question? 2.Some proof that we are NOT a debt based economy. Your ability to avoid answering questions is as broad as Hillary's ass.

 

[Ms Tree]

What ever you say.  I think this gives some insight as to why libertarians cant get elected into office on a broad scale.
 
Nothing like a proud sexist.

 

[SparrowHawk]

What ever you say.  I think this gives some insight as to why libertarians cant get elected into office on a broad scale.
 
Nothing like a proud sexist.

 
 
And the answer (drum roll please) to Mr Williams question is????
 
Damn you could hear a pin drop off Hillary's ass.

 

[eolesen]

Country =/= house.

Obviously, income >= expenses is too complicated of a concept for you.

 

[Ms Tree]

You should go to class with Sparrow.