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[NewHampshire Black Bears]

Well kiddies, I really don't think ENOUGH thought has been applied to the situation of the HUGE(new)A$$ HOLE that Sen. Spector/Casey "ripped" for Dougweiser !


BoeingBoy..............What say you, about my prognostication ??

 

[HPearlyretiree]

JESUS COULD BE RUNNING THE AIRLINE AND THESE WEENIES WOULD STIL NOT BE HAPPY

You got that right, because nothing would ever be enough, the whining is the preferred way of life.

If Jesus were running the airline, the whiners would crucify him

 

[700UW]

Telling the truth about the abysmal state of the airline is not whining.

Is Doogie handing out koolade?

 

[pilot]

You got that right, because nothing would ever be enough, the whining is the preferred way of life.

If Jesus were running the airline, the whiners would crucify him

If Jesus were running the airline the way this group is you would hear exactly the same "whining" you hear now. The preferred way of life would be to have a competent, engaged management who listened and respected the most valuable asset they have and utilized them the way a well run outfit (say Southwest) does.

With all that the employees gave back to keep this thing afloat one would expect a management that was second to none.

What we got here is a management who consistently puts us dead last in all categories of performance and hasn't shown even a glimmer of competence of how to run a major airline.

See if you can differentiate whining from legitimate complaints among employees and customers. This company is going to tank sooner or later if someone doesn't get here that knows how to run an airline.

I doubt it will be Jesus. But I would hope for someone who has his people skills.

pilot

 

[BuffaloJoe]

Well well now then a question for you.

Is the nearly $1,100.00 in vouchers whinning? Apparently your beloved crew of horses arses didn't think so since they parted with them along with 2 Envoy Upgrades.

Are the pitiful DOT stats Whining?

Res Migration just more Negative Nellies?

What about the numerous articles about US Airways that all say the same thing?

What about the Zagat Survey?

All these folks must be whinners too and poor poor pitiful rum soaked Doug is just a victim is that how it goes? OR did I miss something?

You're always so pithy with your one line insults. Why not address the facts and answer some tough questions?? Or are you like the rest of Tempe in that any critique is viewed as being negative and therefore dismissed.

Fact is the Court of Public Opinion has found US Airways guilty of Conduct unbecoming of a major airline and will soon render its verdict at the ticket counter. It already looks like holiday loads were lower than other majors.

Piney, hpretiree or hpfiree is a Kool Aid drinker from the pitcher. He/She must be DoUgIe's personal azzkisser!

 

[NCFL]

Hard headed Old school Staff? And where are these people located? Rio Salada Drive? When the "Wunderkinder" from Tempe took over did they take five minutes to actually listen to the folks from the east? Hire Change Management Consultants?

OR

Did they just assume they knew it all?

Piney, that is SO accurate. I had many, many first-hand experiences of Tempe completely ignoring East procedures or policies that WORKED and were customer-focused. When pressed as to why they refused to listen to experience and logic, the reply from some in Tempe was "our way has worked just fine for us, and that's the process we're going to keep going forward." And those were the cases where they actually included seasoned East personnel in the decision-making process at all.

Never mind that sometimes the East processes in question were money-savers or took into account the complexity of an airline network that didn't just have a hub in PHX and a hub-ette in LAS. Can your system check a bag or issue a ticket with four segments on it? No. Well, that's "always worked for you," so it must be the right thing to do. Never mind that the "new" US might, in conjunction with Star Alliance, have to fly a customer YUM-PHX-PHL-FRA-PRG and actually be able to price the itinerary, generate the ticket AND check a bag.

In the PI/US merger, the dreaded term "mirror image" was used to describe procedural decisions. PI would "mirror" all that US did, regardless. Needless to say, that was unpopular with customers and employees alike. A lot of good (and successful) PI practices went out the window. Some were eventually resurrected because they made sense (gasp!), but that took a long time. Maybe Tempe will realize that eventually and some of the things that worked well in the East will be restarted. I hope so for the customer's sake. That is, if we have any left. They've stopped short of using the dreaded "mirror image" term, but they might as well call a spade a spade.

 

[PHLfa88]

Nope, but he was responsible for the SHARES cutover, the lack of decent service aboard the airplanes, the horrible reconfigurations of the A330, A321 (causing fuel stops on transcons), the A319 reconfiguration, the horrible operational performance and the last place in the Zagat Rankings.

Should be more than enough for the BOD to say buh bye.

GET REAL MAN! No One Is Going To Like ANY CEO That Comes To This Company...PERIOD!! So Get Over It!! <_<

 

[PHLfa88]

Well well now then a question for you.

Is the nearly $1,100.00 in vouchers whinning? Apparently your beloved crew of horses arses didn't think so since they parted with them along with 2 Envoy Upgrades.

Are the pitiful DOT stats Whining?

Res Migration just more Negative Nellies?

What about the numerous articles about US Airways that all say the same thing?

What about the Zagat Survey?

All these folks must be whinners too and poor poor pitiful rum soaked Doug is just a victim is that how it goes? OR did I miss something?

You're always so pithy with your one line insults. Why not address the facts and answer some tough questions?? Or are you like the rest of Tempe in that any critique is viewed as being negative and therefore dismissed.

Fact is the Court of Public Opinion has found US Airways guilty of Conduct unbecoming of a major airline and will soon render its verdict at the ticket counter. It already looks like holiday loads were lower than other majors.

You Have ALWAYS Been A WHINER And You ALWAYS Will!! Plain And Simple! Why Have You Not Left Us Already ? Go..Nothing Is Stoping You!!

 

[fr8tmastr]

GET REAL MAN! No One Is Going To Like ANY CEO That Comes To This Company...PERIOD!! So Get Over It!! <_<

I disagree, I think if we had a CEO that was interested in running an airline he would do just fine.

The problem with the "leaders" we have had up to now is they dont give a rats behind about running an airline. Their only goal is to manipulate the stock price, in order to cash out.


Follow the money, why do you think these individuals are paid so much in stock options?

 

[PO'ed PHX Ramper]

Wow! Way to go PHL, finally a REALIST. It is time to get over it, because everybody is just getting stressed out over things they cannot control, and our lack of togetherness is exactly what the company wants.

Truth is, we all like getting kicked in the balls... Err I mean working for USAIR otherwise we all would have quit long ago.

 

[diogenes]

In the PI/US merger, the dreaded term "mirror image" was used to describe procedural decisions. PI would "mirror" all that US did, regardless. Needless to say, that was unpopular with customers and employees alike. A lot of good (and successful) PI practices went out the window. Some were eventually resurrected because they made sense (gasp!), but that took a long time. Maybe Tempe will realize that eventually and some of the things that worked well in the East will be restarted. I hope so for the customer's sake. That is, if we have any left. They've stopped short of using the dreaded "mirror image" term, but they might as well call a spade a spade.

Here's just one expensive and stupid example.

US AIr's weight and balance system was a paper exercise called min/max. I'm guessing the Wright brothers used the same method. Min/Max was not amenable to computers or 767's.

PI had a computerized decimal system that a monkey could operate. You could calculate weight and balance on the Space Shuttle with it.

Soooo, AL decided the 'best practice' was to apply min/max in all applications, except the 767's (Colodny didn't like those airplanes anyway, and actually considered selling them!), which remained on the decimal system. All ex-PI agents were sent at great expense to learn the Wright method.

Many goat ropings and left-behind revenue later (min/max made it difficult to calculate max allowable loads in both cargo bins), and after Coldony, Malin and Schofield had driven a stake in all things PI, the pooh-bas did some cosmetic rejiggering to PI's decimal method, and voila!!! the NEW AND IMPROVED US AIR weight and balance system!

Prompting of course, the expense of now sending ALL ops agents to recurrent training.

Descision-making skills such as this are paid for with employee furloughs and paycuts.

Sounds like the same-same at the SandBox.

 

[mopar man]

I've been with this company over 30 years and as far as I can remember the best CEO we had was Mr. Colodny. This man tried to make it to all the cities at least once a year to talk to the employees and see if there was any problems. I was in a small station and he made it in twice in one year. ( I know we are bigger now). Every CEO since Colodny only came in to fill his pockets and make a name for himself so when they left they could find another company to steal from, and that includes the present bozo. Anyone remember lunch with the president? The computer randomly picked about 15 people from around the system, all departments to have lunch with Mr. Colodny once a month. After lunch if there was any problems you could discus it with him and he would look into it. AND HE DID. We had one guy that went and he talked about a problem and within a couple of weeks it was fixed. Try that with Dougie and he'd probably forget the conversation because he was half in the bag after lunch. One other thing...in 30 years I have never seen this airline in such terrible shape...for the first time in my career its embarrassing to tell people I work for this outfit. What a shame :angry:

 

[EastUS]

Oh be still you hump. Why don't you refute the allegations instead of doing what you do? That to touch for you?

I'll leave at a time and place of my choice for reasons that make sense to me. Now go fetch me another Gin & Tonic and make it snappy

A word of caution Piney: A ripe sufficiency of the G&T's might seemingly make Tempe-st in a Teapot thinking somehow "make sense"

 

[Travels2mch]

Oh be still you hump. Why don't you refute the allegations instead of doing what you do? That to touch for you?

I'll leave at a time and place of my choice for reasons that make sense to me. Now go fetch me another Gin & Tonic and make it snappy

 

[SS255]

The general flying public's perception is that this management team is incompetent. Unfortunately, the financials state otherwise, and Wall Street has a different set of standards.

I'll bet you dollars to donuts that Management cares much more about Wall Street than it does about the flying public's perception of their job performance.