Merger with NW ?

[luvthe9]

Funny thing about mergers, they never go together the way you think they should!!!

 

[RowUnderDCA]

.... and nobody has an objective opinion.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

Are you on crack? He and Wolff were responsible for our pre- and post- 9/11 problems. They spent the better part of two years on an ill-fated merger attempt, without a PLAN B, when the Dept. of Justice told them in the very beginning that the merger wasn't going to get approved. Don't y'all remember what it was really like, the blocked-off executive suite; the dynamic duo rarely would fly on-line, opting for private jets instead. The ran the airline into the ground, and then immediately before Ch. 11, verse 1, took their millions and bailed, leaving the mess to Siegel. I will agree that we had a great product under them, but we also had an untenebale debt load and a powder keg of troubles waiting to explode, which they did on September 11, 2001.

And do you not remember all the bitching and griping on the line when Wolff and Gangwal were at the helm? It's easy to look back break out into a chorus of "Those Were the Days" and yes, they were better than now, but all was far from rosey.

I agree. Well said.

Wearing funny colored glasses can be just as hazardous as koolaide.

 

[SS255]

There's a reason US was a well-run airline, the darling of Wall Street, and had such a good product: managers who didn't cut the mustard were shown the door, and with great regularity.

Unlike Tempe, which has such a laissez-faire attitude and seems to promote the incompetents versus the talented. They remind me of Miss Prissy in Gone With The Wind singing "Tote the Weary Load" -- lazily taking her time returning from her mission to fetch Dr. Meade as Atlanta burned and Miss Mellie was havin' her baby.

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VERY well said!

 

[PHLfa88]

I hope it happens for no other reason than to have the much discussed PIT-AMS flight get canceled. I can hear the cries and complaints from those vocal PIT supporters already.

Yeah Just Like The City Of Pittsburg Supported USAirways All These Years!! NOT!! When A Mayor Of A Certian City Says And I Qoute " I'd Rather Drive To Cleveland For a Cheaper Fare That Fly USair" Boy Thats ALL The Support We Needed! And The Employees In Pit Are Wondering Whats Happining? :unsure:

 

[JMM]

I always thought NW made sense for us, more so than Delta really. And, as nasty as their management is, at least they have been running a real international airline and might know how to do it......IMHO.

 

[Tiger 1050]

I always thought NW made sense for us, more so than Delta really. And, as nasty as their management is, at least they have been running a real international airline and might know how to do it......IMHO.

The reason Delta makes more sense is because merging in this environment is about the ability to control yield. That comes through consolidation and then shrinking the operation. Many said Delta did not make sense because there was too much overlap. Well that is exactly why DP and the village idiots in Tempe wanted it! It effectively eliminates your competition...

 

[Flufdriver]

The reason Delta makes more sense is because merging in this environment is about the ability to control yield. That comes through consolidation and then shrinking the operation. Many said Delta did not make sense because there was too much overlap. Well that is exactly why DP and the village idiots in Tempe wanted it! It effectively eliminates your competition...

You call them "village idiots"...but your very last statement says alot........"eliminate your competition"...maybe they really weren't the village idiots trying to eliminate their competition...think about it!

 

[Tiger 1050]

You call them "village idiots"...but your very last statement says alot........"eliminate your competition"...maybe they really weren't the village idiots trying to eliminate their competition...think about it!

You are right. I suppose I just cannot find anything nice to say about these guys. However, do you work in this industry? If so what do you think happens to the employees when you "eliminate competition?"

 

[Art at ISP]

This is an interesting discussion. The Sand Castle crowd being complemented although sideways---however, there is one point to consider.

The Feds would never approve a DL/US merger, BECAUSE it would eliminate/reduce competition......so in that line of thinking perhaps they WERE the VI's.

From many points of view, however, US/NW makes perfect sense--but that doesn't mean it would go any smoother than the US/HP merger, which STILL IS NOT DONE over 2 years later....Maybe there's a reason for that too??????

As much as I bash them, I am sure there are some things they might be good at after all--but not at running an airline. And when I figure out what those things are I will let you all know 🙂

Happy Holidays y'all....

 

[North by Northwest]

You call them "village idiots"...but your very last statement says alot........"eliminate your competition"...maybe they really weren't the village idiots trying to eliminate their competition...think about it!

Which is precisely why Congress-persons from Georgia/ Penn. /N.C. /N.Y. would not have allowed it.

 

[USCREW]

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(If you can read this... you're a true Minnesotan!)

 

[Gloria Holtz]

VEN TWO MINNESOTANS MEET oop nort on da lake fichen.



"Hay dair."

"Seeyaround."

"Yeah takideeze."

"Guluck."

"Yoobetcha."



(If you can read this... you're a true Minnesotan!)

Oh my - we will need speakers on board if we have to fly with Northwest Orient gals.

 

[North by Northwest]

USCREW:

VEN TWO MINNESOTANS MEET oop nort on da lake fichen.

RIGHT on the money!

Sign language is a part of initial.

 

[CynicalResAgent]

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