NEW HIRES

[BrutallyHonest]

Starting wage in year one is $15.63 with a nine year progression.

Once again not a completely true statement. :down: Line mechanics get paid $2 bucks more for their A&P. So try 17.63 for new hires on the line. And thats the only place Usairways has any new hire mechanics in the system. Although I hear they have been paying above the minimum in BOS,PHL and DCA to get people to take the jobs.

 

[700UW]

Starting Wage, License pay is not starting wage.

 

[BrutallyHonest]

Starting Wage, License pay is not starting wage.

Starting pay = What you will be paid when you start.
Base pay = what you are referring to.
Final answer = Your WRONG AGAIN!!

 

[700UW]

Go read your contract, it states wages, and then license pay, two totally and seperate things.

What about avionics guys who dont have any licenses at all?

 

[awausairtech]

NEW HIRE............

TRY TRY AND TRY MY LITTLE NEW HIRE!!!!!!!!
west has you....read your contract....

ooooooyou did not get the shirtails thing.!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BrutallyHonest]

Go read your contract, it states wages, and then license pay, two totally and seperate things.

What about avionics guys who dont have any licenses at all?

Here is the original question: JUST COURIOUS WHAT IS STARTING PAY FOR A/P LINE MECHANIC IN DCA ON MIDS ?.................

Here is your WRONG answer: Starting wage in year one is $15.63 with a nine year progression

I believe my answer is correct and you are once again WRONG! Don't let the FACTS blind you. Do you still have a chance of getting your job back?? 😉 You better hurry, the stock clerk group needs your help in negotiating pay cuts.

 

[awausairtech]

and 7 I WANT THE ANSWER BY THE IAM CONTRACT WORD FOR WORD AS YOU SAY>>>>???

Here is the original question: JUST COURIOUS WHAT IS STARTING PAY FOR A/P LINE MECHANIC IN DCA ON MIDS ?.................

Here is your WRONG answer: Starting wage in year one is $15.63 with a nine year progression

I believe my answer is correct and you are once again WRONG! Don't let the FACTS blind you. Do you still have a chance of getting your job back?? 😉 You better hurry, the stock clerk group needs your help in negotiating pay cuts.

2 LOW

and 7 I WANT THE ANSWER BY THE IAM CONTRACT WORD FOR WORD AS YOU SAY>>>>???
2 LOW

BUT not for the paperboy!!!!

 

[AP Tech]

What about avionics guys who dont have any licenses at all?

Last I checked to work avionics line you must have a FCC General Radio License. 😛

 

[awausairtech]

Last I checked to work avionics line you must have a FCC General Radio License. 😛

AP you will need to learn avionics and how to change a seat cushion soon. :unsure: That or work out of service or be REAl good with a MEL soon!!!!

 

[luvn737s]

I WAS IN THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY 18 YEARS AA/TWA, GOT OUT WITH A REAL JOB I CAN DEPEND ON WILL BE AROUND FOR YEARS TO COME. A GUY I WORKED WITH FOR A FEW MONTHS GOT ON WITH YOU GUYS IN DCA, NO MAJOR EXPERENCE ONLY WORKED ON RJs AND WHAT A TOTAL SCREWBALL THIS GUY IS, :blink: YOU WILL HIRE ANYBODY I MEAN ANYONE!!!!!! I HAVE RESPECT FOR A/P MECHANICS IN YOUR AIRLINE, USED TO BE YOU WERE TOP NOTCH NOW? GOOD LUCK GUYS ......... <_<

Anyone who knew anything about aircraft would easily see the system similarities between RJ's and other aircraft. And if you worked with this "screwball", then your former employer had the same hiring standards as USAirways. So what's your point? Nostalgia for "The Worst Airline"?

 

[smorzando]

Go read your contract, it states wages, and then license pay, two totally and seperate things.

What about avionics guys who dont have any licenses at all?

Avionics is above and beyond the knowledge the A&P license requires. Most A&P people only have elementary electronic knowledge. They touch on electronics in A&P school but not enough to do what's required of the avionic jobs in industry. Most get their schooling from at least a two year specialty school or the military which is very good training because you will flunk out if you really don't grasp it.

The contract also stated, when I was there, that to be a machinist you needed X amount of hours to get in the machine shop which was a joke because the guys who meet the few hours required, well ninety nine percent couldn't pass the required test, which was a good thing.

IMO a test should be required no matter the department ON TOP of seniority, because seniority doesn't automatically equal knowledge. I could name examples but anyone who is honest with himself knows this.

They are dumbing down everything these days with the government that used to issue testing now being accomplished by vendors for hire that guarantees you will pass. The truth is most times it guarantees nothing but people holding a license that are totally inept.

The statement “Go look at the contactâ€￾ doesn’t guarantee quality people and in fact sometimes just the opposite thanks to seniority. I have training in all fields I mentioned and witness first hand how seniority overrule knowledge, which of course effects the bottom line and in tough times many jobs.

In today’s world unions will never be able to compete unless they change everything and if they do there is no sense in paying dues anyway, it’s moot, like unions have become.

 

[smorzando]

You guys should be thankful instead of whining. Be thankful you get a pay check and benefits, and be especially thankful to your union for doing what you couldn't.

 

[smorzando]

You guys should be thankful instead of whining. Be thankful you get a pay check and benefits, and be especially thankful to your union for doing what you couldn't.

See my posts...this way you have it both ways...for and against___But my heart of heart says unions are all but finished. Read "State of Emergency" by Patrick Buchanan which is very relevant to unions members. This is goes to the root of it all and with weakened unions, well it's plain scary.

 

[RedOne]

Starting wage in year one is $15.63 with a nine year progression.

Dam#. I made that back in 1972 (or was it 75) as an agent with Piedmont! I had a license too! A drivers license!
If that is the best the IAM can do for ya......it shows they haven't changed a thing since I retired!

 

[700UW]

Guess you did not realize the contract was abrogated in chapter 11 and the company offered a final offer and the members ratified it?

There was not negotiations on the pay scale.