Watch the crew news again. Pay special attention to the part where he says that he often says things that aren't true. That he says things for effect. That explains a lot....
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Watch the crew news again. Pay special attention to the part where he says that he often says things that aren't true. That he says things for effect. That explains a lot....
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Then, Where's the NIC? How is it working for you guys, accept the DOH list with C&R then you can file your DFR. Are you guys afraid you will lose AGAIN? It's over let's get a contract you might as well make more money while waiting for you next DFR.
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Amazing thing for a CEO to say. A CEO admitting he often says things that aren't true... So where does one in the financial world draw the line and believe or not believe him? Or negotiators? So you are saying the fact he admitted "This is for you guys to decide" is also in that bucket? I say not. What I do say is if this is a true statement he made -that he often lies, it speaks volumes of the west pilots who congregate and hang on to his words as gospel, including his accepting the list you gave him. So you now say the entire video was comprised of untruths? This airline, west pilots, and management get stranger by the day.
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I agree, he never makes sense, probably should give him a breathalyzer before he speaks.
West pilots do not congregate and hold Parker's words as gospel. If you watch the crew news with a modicum of intelligence you might see that the west pilots are putting it on record that Parker DID accept the list, officially, and that despite what he and Kirby say in this venue that we know differently. The pilot who carried the letter accepting the Nic into both Parker's and Kirby's crew news sessions knows exactly what he is doing, already knows the anwers he will be given by each and knows the value of having these performances on record.
You can have anything T/A'd agreed to etc, etc, doesn't mean squat unless it is in a ratified contract! He could accept giving us crew meals an negotiate them away next session, It's called collective bargaining. For the record he used disputed did he not? MM!
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According to Bid 11-01 Head Count is 2592. Add in returning furloughees and 33 Leaving Bid that can still vote and you are at about 2700 East pilots.
New contract? Compensation-Vacation-Retirement-Sick Leave-Reserve System-Scope.
However, Many of us will see none of the above prior to retirement as the "dispute" is likely to rage on for many more years while USAPA continues to place Section 22 DOH Seniority List as the cornerstone of the CBA.
In the meantime, for the East, the real contract will be LOA 93 Pay, 21 days Vacation, current Reserve System, 60 Hours Sick Leave, etc.
Happy Thanksgiving to all. Even you Turkeys.
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I've always said that Parker et al. say things that aren't true for effect and to deflect comment from any given audience. He does it when he says that there is no way that the arbitrator will find in favor of the pilots on the LOA 93 grievance. He's talking out his rear end. Nothing more. But really....how else could he possibly answer questions like that?
He could answer questions like that truthfully. Why do you even ask such a thing?
The seniority list integration has been completed AND officially accepted by the company. True, it is in dispute and true, it won't be implemented until a combined contract is in place.
The list will ALWAYS be in dispute, no question but, it IS the list.
It WILL one day be implemented when the east finally accepts the fact that they cannot undo a final and binding arbitration and realize that continuing to argue that is pointless.
Until then west pilots will continue earning 17% more pay and enjoying much better work rules. In doing so we will remain stagnated while the east benefits from additional international flying and garnishes their attrition. It appears that both sides accept their own costs as those of doing business.
It's your list not USAPA's, and will never be implemented, we'll se how your scope and plan "B" for USAIRWAYS goes down the road, that risk thing you know! MM!
Hold on a second here Ames.
The West has never accepted the current situation as a satifactory one. It was not the West that walked out of negotiation. It was not the West that sought to renege on its obligations. Unlike the dual unionist who proposed it prior to usapa's election, the West never sought to force seperate operations.
The West has never accepted the out of seniority furloughs, and job theft that the east has accomplished as a "cost of doing bussiness". The cost that has been thrust upon the West will be recouped, and the date for the start of damages is Aug 2008.
That is why the company will not touch usapa's list. The company absolutely will not be on the hook for hundreds of millions in lost wages and damages that usapa has cost the West.
Also, the West has no control over the process. east posters here say, why don't you West guys quit suing so we can get a contract, then you can sue all you want. Well, the problem is, it is not the West's lawsuit, it is the company's. Further, there is no means for the West to "accept" anything, nor is there a means for the West to acquiesce to usapa'a demands.
No, the West does not accept the situation as a cost of doing bussiness, usapa does, and they put as much of that cost on the West as possible.
Correction MM, its "our" list. It may never be implemented, but what is certain is, neither will the usapa DOH seniority theft scandal.
BTW, our scope is just fine. It is clear, accurate, high powered and sighted. The crosshairs of the reticle are aimed right behind usapa's ear.
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Be sure to lick the suction cup tip first.
The Nic is sitting in corporate as the company's officially accepted seniority list, as such, it is still at the negotiating table awaiting implementation in a joint contract. Where is that DOH list other than in usapa's pipe dream?
umm...exactly how would we make more money if the company and usapa reach an illegal contract whose implementation were barred by injunction?
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