NMB Declares Delta/NW Single Transp. System

[LukeAisleWalker]

Now,.... NOW, AFA can file for the election.
See...it didn't take all that long. 😉

 

[flyingcat]

I'm not that up to speed on AFA 's view.

I was under the impression that AFA wanted to stretch out the time before an election would begin. Would this not be hurtful to them.

 

[LukeAisleWalker]

I'm not that up to speed on AFA 's view.

I was under the impression that AFA wanted to stretch out the time before an election would begin. Would this not be hurtful to them.

Co. was urging AFA to speedily file for the election but that couldn't happen until today's ruling/determination was made. I tried to provide a link for the NMB's determination but was unable to do so. It hasn't hit the mainstream press yet.
I don't think it's necessarily hurtful to them. By the time the vote takes place, Obama will be in office and I have a feeling Ms. Van de Water of the NMB will no longer be on the board. (She's very pro-corporation and once worked for NWA).
Personally, I think it's best for the AFA to move forward, call the election, get the seniority issues resolved, etc...

 

[dapoes]

I'm not that up to speed on AFA 's view.

I was under the impression that AFA wanted to stretch out the time before an election would begin. Would this not be hurtful to them.

Yes it kinda backfired on them and their silly lawsuit.

 

[LukeAisleWalker]

Yes it kinda backfired on them and their silly lawsuit.

Not necessarily. It might be a gift in disguise for them. I agree with you that the sentiment of most FAs is to get this thing moving; AFA wanted to drag it out. Perhaps (I'm not sure), this could force them to move on without delay, thus stopping the negative publicity of them stalling.
I think it all depends on how they handle it. It's too new to tell yet.

 

[Airlinelifer]

Yes it kinda backfired on them and their silly lawsuit.

The ruling only pertains to the pilots (ALPA), not the Flight attendents (AFA), or Customer Service (IAM).

 

[dapoes]

The ruling only pertains to the pilots (ALPA), not the Flight attendents (AFA), or Customer Service (IAM).

Really? Bummer.

 

[Airlinelifer]

Really? Bummer.

While the Board granted ALPA's application, it specifically rejected Delta's argument that ALPA's application required the board to review the existing certifications of the IAM and AFA, who have not filed their applications to extend the certifications for employee groups at Northwest to those at Delta. The Board agreed with the IAM and recognized the under the wellsettled law, only the involved employee groups - and not the company - control when a representation election is to be held.

We'll have an election at the appropriate time.....

 

[FWAAA]

Here's the story from the StarTribune:

http://www.startribune.com/business/372443...iD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

 

[aislehopper]

Click here for NMB Decision

 

[LukeAisleWalker]

Here's the story from the StarTribune:

http://www.startribune.com/business/372443...iD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

From the Star Tribune article:

The Association of Flight Attendants lauded the mediation board for taking a narrow interpretation of its role in investigating union representation disputes. At this time, the federal body will look only at representation issues affecting pilots, dispatchers and meteorologists who have filed requests with the board.

Delta argued that the mediation board's examination should be extended to all work groups, in the hope of prodding the ground workers and attendants to move closer to representation elections. But the attendants indicated that they want more time and that union leaders should determine when to seek an election.

Sorry, Dapoes.

 

[Kev3188]

Inaccurate info on DeltaNet? Say it ain't so! 🙄

 

[dapoes]

From the Star Tribune article:

The Association of Flight Attendants lauded the mediation board for taking a narrow interpretation of its role in investigating union representation disputes. At this time, the federal body will look only at representation issues affecting pilots, dispatchers and meteorologists who have filed requests with the board.

Delta argued that the mediation board's examination should be extended to all work groups, in the hope of prodding the ground workers and attendants to move closer to representation elections. But the attendants indicated that they want more time and that union leaders should determine when to seek an election.

Sorry, Dapoes.

Thanks for the apology, however it seems that the NMB just threw it back into the AFA's lap. AFA's position (so they say) was they wanted to wait for a SOC. NMB ruled that Delta and Northwest now constitute a single transportation system for representation purposes under the Railway Labor Act. So now the ball is in AFA's court. AFA was hoping that it wouldnt happen until later this year possibly next, but now there is really no excuse to wait.

 

[jalbalpa]

AFA was hoping that it wouldnt happen until later this year possibly next, but now there is really no excuse to wait.

This is your opinion and not a fact.

 

[southwind]

Does it really matter when the vote is held ? For the most part, I'm sure people's minds are already made up as to which side of the fence they stand on. Dragging your feet,i.e. AFA, IAM, from my point of view, won't help their cause in the end !