Non-Rev Boarding priority poll

[PhxMama]

In light of recent information posted above (I read the same this morning as well), and my ignorance on how to edit the original post, I would like to ask the moderator to remove this entire thread. Passing around more junk mail was NOT my intention. I was easily fooled!

PQA, we know it was not your intention to post something that was not real! Do not feel bad because it has been a nice break from all the union threads!

 

[ChrisUS]

If you HAD seniority and retired you have no vote.
Bottom of the list. Thank you for all your years of service 'NOW GO AWAY' :down:

No, stay where you are, you cant GO anywhere! 😉 EVERYONE goes ahead of you.

 

[traderjake]

The senior employee makes more money and works a better schedule. Why should he be the only one who gets to commute or go on vacation?

First come, first serve gives everyone an equal chance of getting to work or Grandma's house.

The pilot's at US East reserve the jumpseat 7 days in advance on a first come, first serve basis. I would like a system where the non rev list is determined by the order that people list themselves online 2 or 7 days before the flight.

 

[rjh]

The senior employee makes more money and works a better schedule. Why should he be the only one who gets to commute or go on vacation?

First come, first serve gives everyone an equal chance of getting to work or Grandma's house.

The pilot's at US East reserve the jumpseat 7 days in advance on a first come, first serve basis. I would like a system where the non rev list is determined by the order that people list themselves online 2 or 7 days before the flight.

Agreed 100%. Flight benefits are just that: a BENEFIT. Senior employees don't get better medical, dental or vision coverage .why should they get a better chance to get on flights? They already get higher pay, more vacation, and a better choice of schedules. The better choice of schedules also gives many of the senior people long stretches of days off (in addition to vacation)--that gives them more opportunities to travel than junior people.

And the commuter excuse is the worst reason to go with seniority. Commuters made the CHOICE to be commuters. Yes, I know all the arguments: they did not choose to change bases and all that. But . they DID choose to stay in their current city and they DID choose to commute to their base. They could have moved or quit. In addition, most commuters are pilots or FA's, and they have an advantage most employees don't: access to jumpseats. Also, pilots (and maybe FA's, but I'm not sure) can also jumpseat for free on many other airlines. Other employees have to pay fees to travel on other airlines. In short: most (notice I did not say all) commuters have more options available to them.

Someone else said that using seniority helps plan better. How? When using first come/first serve, you plan your flights based on how many employees are already listed on the flight. If there are more non-revs than seats available--you know you need to check in early.

With senioirity--you would have to pull up the PNR for every employee, type in their badge # into DRS, determine their seniority date, and then compare their seniority to everyone else on the list.

 

[EricLv2Fish]

PQA, we know it was not your intention to post something that was not real! Do not feel bad because it has been a nice break from all the union threads!

I second that! My brain was beginning to rot!

 

[fly with US]

Don't be ridiculous guys, seniority is the *only* fair way. They have *earned* it. Somebody mentioned why should the senior worker get to go on vacation while the other doesn't? Well, because they *earned* it. They have been there longer, so they should have more benefits. Just like all the companies who reward more vacation days to the senior employees.

Imagine this, what if a person (person A) who has been working for US for 20 years is commuting to his job, while another person (person B) is a part-time, 1-year Joe Blow visiting his grandma. Person A is flying on flight A, while person B is flying on flight B. They both check in for their flight 12 hours before, so they are set. However, flight A is cancelled so person A has to fly on flight B. Why should person B have more rights to the seat?

For the most part, it seems that it is US and HP employees fighting against each other. Why don't you see US people arguing about not getting a seat on a flight to a senior person? Because they realize that that is a benefit with seniority. You HP guys are just freaking out because you think all the US employees will be senior to you. Don't worry, there will be a day (most likely soon) when you can bump off the newbies. I bet you won't be complaining then.

Seniority, way it may not seem fair at times, it the *only* fair way. Besides, for much of the years to come, a lot HP employees will stick to the West side, while US employees will stick to the East side, so that way, you won't have an unfair seniority issue here.

Come on guys, I can't believe we are agruing about a long-accepted thing, which is seniority. You do know that the earth does not evolve around you, so there will be times when you don't get a seat. Non-reving happens to be that way. There was/is no guarantee that there is a seat for you. Tough luck, life sucks; complain and get on with your life.

 

[traderjake]

Come on guys, I can't believe we are agruing about a long-accepted thing, which is seniority. You do know that the earth does not evolve around you, so there will be times when you don't get a seat.

Yea, I know the earth "evolves" around the senior man on the list. He's been telling me for 20 years that someday I'll be senior and get to screw to junior guy.

You are not entitled to get on the airplane before me.

 

[fly with US]

You are not entitled to get on the airplane before me.

Just like the senior pilot isn't entitled to pick his plane first. :down:

And trust me, I wouldn't get on before you anyway. 😉

 

[USXboy]

Hp always earned up to 40 flexis per years and we could use 3 to bump us up to SA1P(vacation listing). If we wanted to we could have been SA1P 13 times(if we had perfect attendance and were full time.) So now we only have the option of 2x a year. Hp employees lost on this big time.

But you were also given a Registered companion that can fly anytime, anywhere on the system. That in its own right is worth probably 100 Flexis!

Also, Pets have always flown free on USAirways (there's 2 flexis per roundtrip)

And you have 8 buddy passes that are electronic, not paper certs... the convinence factor alone should be worth something!

 

[jack mama]

Senority is the only fair way. With online checkin, you will be able to get on the list the second you are allowed to check in. What about those with no internet? Unfair. Senority is the only fair system.

 

[ramp44]

Senority is the only fair way. With online checkin, you will be able to get on the list the second you are allowed to check in. What about those with no internet? Unfair. Senority is the only fair system.

Senority for boarding----like all the other major airlines

 

[PhxMama]

But you were also given a Registered companion that can fly anytime, anywhere on the system. That in its own right is worth probably 100 Flexis!

Also, Pets have always flown free on USAirways (there's 2 flexis per roundtrip)

And you have 8 buddy passes that are electronic, not paper certs... the convinence factor alone should be worth something!

I (and thats what its all about, me) do not have a registered companion. I have a husband and children and they still maintain the same benefits as prior to the merger. My dog goes to the kennel so I have NEVER used a flexi on a pet and some of us are grown ups and dont lose our flexis. Kinda like having a drivers license! I realize you were just pointing out what you think are the positives but I disagree. This thread is strictly about what each of us perceive as best for ourselves. Trust me 40 flexis vs 8 you can live with the paper!

Senority is the only fair way. With online checkin, you will be able to get on the list the second you are allowed to check in. What about those with no internet? Unfair. Senority is the only fair system.

Get a computer. Unfair is when you merge with a company that has employees with years of service that are greater than the age of the company you worked for prior. yeah, thats fair.

Senority for boarding----like all the other major airlines

Who cares what the other airlines do? We are blazing a path of our own!

 

[fly with US]

Get a computer. Unfair is when you merge with a company that has employees with years of service that are greater than the age of the company you worked for prior. yeah, thats fair.

Hey now, just think, in a few years, all of them will be retired. 😉

Plus, it is not like all the HP guys will be on the bottom.

Also, if you guys think this is unfair, just imagine all the guys who have been working fir 20 year. Now all of a sudden they are below somebody who has been there for 5. THAT is unfair.

 

[PhxMama]

Hey now, just think, in a few years, all of them will be retired. 😉

Plus, it is not like all the HP guys will be on the bottom.

Also, if you guys think this is unfair, just imagine all the guys who have been working fir 20 year. Now all of a sudden they are below somebody who has been there for 5. THAT is unfair.

Just check in as soon as you can! At least you've got a shot at boarding. I would love to see a seniority list of both east and west and where all the seniority lies. Would you care to wager on which side has 90 percent higher seniority? I dont wish to wait for other employees to retire to catch a flight, does that sound silly to you? Im hoping Tempe has a compromise that will make us all mad so we can be mad at them and not at each other. Neither side asked for any of this so lets just wait and see.

 

[fly with US]

I dont wish to wait for other employees to retire to catch a flight, does that sound silly to you?

That is seniority. If you are there the longest, you should get the most benefits.