Obama Requires YOU to SERVE, H.R.1388

[dapoes]

HR 1388, will hit the House floor on Tuesday.It is called the Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act (The Give Act.) The House is scheduled to Rule this week. Sponsored by Democrat Representative Carolyn McCarthy (NY), Education and Labor Committee. The objective is to reauthorize and reform the national service laws.

Democrat Rep. McCarthy is sponsoring the bill with 25 co-sponsors, ALL Democrats, including Charlie Rangel. Need I say more...

My concerns are many with this Bill. What gives the Government the right to require individuals to give 3 years service under the guise of "volunteer" service? It is not explicit exactly who is required but I think they get the Bill passed and then iron out the details.

It talks about uniforms and "camps." They revise the word "camps" and call it "campus." There is language about Seniors and Community organizations.

.....From the Misc. section, #6104: (6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

By whose interpretation of "social fabric" are they speaking of? Is it the disgusting display being put on by the current administration perhaps? :blink:

 

[Garfield1966]

This sounds vaguely familiar. I am pretty sure we discussed this already a while back.

 

[Garfield1966]

Yep .... we did.

Knock your self out.


Civilian National security Force

 

[Garfield1966]

I was wading through the bill and could not find anything to substantiate your claim. Can you show me the parts that you are referring too?

Thanks

 

[dapoes]

I was wading through the bill and could not find anything to substantiate your claim. Can you show me the parts that you are referring too?

Thanks

Heres the link

 

[Garfield1966]

What part of "show me the part" are you not clear on? I waded through parts and could not find anything. Since you never read original sources and only post links some of which are just plain wrong (401k ring a bell) I know you did not read it.

 

[dapoes]

What part of "show me the part" are you not clear on? I waded through parts and could not find anything. Since you never read original sources and only post links some of which are just plain wrong (401k ring a bell) I know you did not read it.

Ok since your are being lazy I will step you through the process.

1) Click Here for Bill
2) Click "Printer Freindly Display" for full text.
3) Read to your hearts content
Example: Go to section 6104 section 6

Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

 

[dapoes]

The House passed a HR 1388 yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory national service programs as fears about President Barack Obama’s promised “civilian national security forceâ€￾ intensify.

The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act, was passed yesterday by a 321-105 margin and now goes to the Senate.

Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,â€￾ in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.â€￾

Section 120 of the bill also discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Programâ€￾ and states that “service learningâ€￾ will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agencyâ€￾.

 

[tech2101]

The House passed a HR 1388 yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory national service programs as fears about President Barack Obama’s promised “civilian national security force†intensify.

The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act, was passed yesterday by a 321-105 margin and now goes to the Senate.

Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,†in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.â€

Section 120 of the bill also discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program†and states that “service learning†will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agencyâ€.

Theres also a provision for uniforms as well....go figure.

Interesting that it past with bipartisan support. 23 Republican Senators voted for the measure. 71 Repub's in the House supported it.

You failed to point out the education incentives, among the other good things in the bill. Look past your hate.

 

[delldude]

Read the fine print.......

 

[cltrat]

Interesting that it past with bipartisan support. 23 Republican Senators voted for the measure. 71 Repub's in the House supported it.

You failed to point out the education incentives, among the other good things in the bill. Look past your hate.

okay so they put a few carrots in to get their passed typical politics

I wonder if they will be goose stepping?

 

[southwind]

This sounds vaguely familiar. I am pretty sure we discussed this already a while back.

So lets discuss it again !

I'm prepared, when they try to indoctrinate me !

Are you ?

 

[novaqt]

HR 1388, will hit the House floor on Tuesday.It is called the Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act (The Give Act.) The House is scheduled to Rule this week. Sponsored by Democrat Representative Carolyn McCarthy (NY), Education and Labor Committee. The objective is to reauthorize and reform the national service laws.

Democrat Rep. McCarthy is sponsoring the bill with 25 co-sponsors, ALL Democrats, including Charlie Rangel. Need I say more...

My concerns are many with this Bill. What gives the Government the right to require individuals to give 3 years service under the guise of "volunteer" service? It is not explicit exactly who is required but I think they get the Bill passed and then iron out the details.

It talks about uniforms and "camps." They revise the word "camps" and call it "campus." There is language about Seniors and Community organizations.

.....From the Misc. section, #6104: (6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

By whose interpretation of "social fabric" are they speaking of? Is it the disgusting display being put on by the current administration perhaps? :blink:

Supposedly the service they perform enables them to go to college. Senior who volunteer will be given $1000 for being a mentor. This might clean up the streets.