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Our turn to strike, and we must prepare.

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Who took the last stab at a strike? Well it has been a while, and one thing matters. It is TWU's turn.

The company and TWU seem locked in an embrace, but if you look closely ( American Airlines has just committed Hari-Kari with an 1.1 Billion dollar investment promise to JAL).... the timing has never been better to pressure American Airlines management. There is no wAAy the TWU will see it this way (they never went to business school) but we should DEMAND the NMB mediator to declare and impasse with an organized protest outside NMB headquarters.
 
On the Contrary my friend the TWU had been to company union Business School for at least 25 years now and instead of a strike you can expect an agreement to binding arbitration.
 
On the Contrary my friend the TWU had been to company union Business School for at least 25 years now and instead of a strike you can expect an agreement to binding arbitration.
What I expect is a SELLOUT again my friend, based on past performance or lack thereof. The only time TWU got us anything was when they were under threat of replacement.
 
On the Contrary my friend the TWU had been to company union Business School for at least 25 years now and instead of a strike you can expect an agreement to binding arbitration.
Yea they're being schooled by the company!!!!!!
In a serious note the member can't fully blame the union because they vote for the concessions!!!!!
 
I have to agree, its our turn.

The last time the TWU struck at AA was 1969. 40 years ago! So out of the 9605 mechanics currently at AA only 78 ever saw us strike for better wages and benifits. Is it any wonder that we've lost 40% since 2003? I'm sure if you factored in benifit losses, tax bracket creep and inflation since 1969 it would be closer to 70%.

Gee wasnt the industry regulated in 1969? I thought they didnt have to fight back then? That the airlines simply gave workers what they wanted and raised prices, but now that we are deregulated we should just sit back and accept whatever they say they can afford to give us!
Guess what people even if they brought in $40 billion a year in revenue and got rid of another 30% of us they still wouldnt have any money for us!

Get ready to strike or get ready to give up more. Show them that you are unhappy in the meantime. Its your choice, if you want things to get better you have to make it happen.

Ponder this for a moment. Think of all the people you know who either quit or were terminated from this company. How many of them ended up on the street with a tin cup in hand? How many landed just fine and either matched or made out better than they did with the airlines? In reality what do you have to lose by fighting to make things better? Are you willing to accept that things will get worse?
 
Who took the last stab at a strike? Well it has been a while, and one thing matters. It is TWU's turn.


I for one don't think that a strike by the TWU members will happen. Too many individuals and families with little or no savings, just barely getting by paycheck to paycheck. No unemployment benefits to offset lost income while on strike. Credit cards maxed out to pay bills that the paychecks won't. So when it's time to vote for a strike, many will say openly that they will vote yes for a strike, but their pen will mark the NO box on a strike ballot. Just my two cents.
 
I for one don't think that a strike by the TWU members will happen. Too many individuals and families with little or no savings, just barely getting by paycheck to paycheck. No unemployment benefits to offset lost income while on strike. Credit cards maxed out to pay bills that the paychecks won't. So when it's time to vote for a strike, many will say openly that they will vote yes for a strike, but their pen will mark the NO box on a strike ballot. Just my two cents.
I remember voting to strike 2 years ago, before NOGOtiations started. The Rock was in the 90%+ to strike.
 
On the Contrary my friend the TWU had been to company union Business School for at least 25 years now and instead of a strike you can expect an agreement to binding arbitration.
In the past AA would have been quite agreeable to binding arbitration. This time however it does not suit there needs. They will come back with some crappy and degrading offer which they know the union will not accept (but laugh if they do). This way they can laughingly show they are negotiating in good faith and as a result continue onward with the holding pattern of our wages.
 
This place would come to a technical standstill if you would just do your job according to the GPM. And that includes driving on the ramp at the speed you are suppose to. Hows that for starters.
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This place would come to a technical standstill if you would just do your job according to the GPM. And that includes driving on the ramp at the speed you are suppose to. Hows that for starters.
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True, but AMR needs more than cough medicine at a time when they are placing$Billion + investments into other airlines.
 
I for one don't think that a strike by the TWU members will happen. Too many individuals and families with little or no savings, just barely getting by paycheck to paycheck. No unemployment benefits to offset lost income while on strike. Credit cards maxed out to pay bills that the paychecks won't. So when it's time to vote for a strike, many will say openly that they will vote yes for a strike, but their pen will mark the NO box on a strike ballot. Just my two cents.

If people only struck when they could afford to strike there would not only be no strikes but there would be no reason to strike.

What you have to look at is this. If you are barely getting by now and the company is standing firm on its "cost neutral" position then things are only going to get worse.

What you have to remember is that inflation automatically gives you a paycut every year so a "cost neutral" contract means that your real pay will be cut through inflation. Not only that but the real paycut you see is higher than the CPI. The CPI is very flawed. When companies attach things like "surcharges" and "fees" after giving you the price quote those figures arent included in the basket of goods the BLS uses to compute the CPI. Sometimes they can be very high. For instance I use Natural Gas to heat my home. The surcharges are pretty much equal to what I pay per therm, but the increased surcharges are not included as an increase in the price of Natural Gas so the economic impact of those surcharges, which are very real, are nonexistant as far as the CPI.

Credit card fees, baggage fees, energy surcharges, the list gets very creative but on more and more of your purchases you see some sort of fee or surcharge added and more than likely they are not added to the CPI but they do add to the cost of what you purchased. Some even charge a surcharge for selling you the product you just bought! Businesses even do it to each other. When AA talks to a bank about renegotating a loan, bang, a fee just for talking.
The company can then brag that they renegotiated terms on outstanding debt and lowered it by two points but leave out the fact that it cost the $2million dollars in fees to do so, effectively lowering any real benifit of renegotiating the loan. But, they get to tell the employees what a great job they are doing with the finances and now we have to do our part.

AA has jumped onto the "surcharge and fees" badwagon, and used it to not only screw the consumer but mislead us as well. They claim that ticket prices are declining ,"thats why we cant pay you more". However we can see that they took in more revenue while flying fewer passengers, sounds like PFM to me! We charged less, flew less, but generated more revenue! Sure the ticket price may have went down but the amount of money that they got out of those people went up, in they end they paid more to get where they are going. The lower ticket price doesnt mean they paid less for what they used to get, now they tack on fees and surcharges for things that used to be part of the ticket price. They even charge you for getting a ticket!Because its different for every passenger, who checked bags, who printed out a ticket, who made reservations by phone, who bought a meal on board etc its ignored but they add up to very big numbers.

The point is that your costs as a consumer will continue to increase even if you are being told that prices are going down. If you think its bad now its only going to get worse unless you are prepared to fight and make it better. If you are just getting by now eventually you will not be. You will be in even worse shape to fight then, if thats your excuse now. The choice is yours, fight now or accept that things will continue to get worse.
 
Bob, unfortunately, there are plenty of knuckleheads out there that have not prepared for the upcoming fight. Even in the face of an open overtime checkbook by the company. Instead of saving, they've gone out and bought a new $40k truck. Then they will use the excuse of, "I have nothing saved!" to justify their ridiculous excuse for not supporting a strike.

Bottom line, (I don't care whose toes I step on, it's true) there are a lot of stupid mechanics out there and intelligent people like us that are prepared and willing have a heavy bucket of water to carry up the hill for them.
 
You would-be strikers are working from some false assumptions. The billion plus offer to JAL has very little AMR cash in it. TPG is putting up the money for this deal, unlike Delta which is trying to rule the airline world by buying everything in sight and piling up more debt. So the talk of "if AMR can afford a billion for JAL it can afford a raise for me!" is misguided and inaccurate.
 
You would-be strikers are working from some false assumptions. The billion plus offer to JAL has very little AMR cash in it. TPG is putting up the money for this deal, unlike Delta which is trying to rule the airline world by buying everything in sight and piling up more debt. So the talk of "if AMR can afford a billion for JAL it can afford a raise for me!" is misguided and inaccurate.
<_< ------- And TPG is doing this all "out of the goodness of their heart!!!" -----RIGHT!!? 😉
 
Bob, unfortunately, there are plenty of knuckleheads out there that have not prepared for the upcoming fight. Even in the face of an open overtime checkbook by the company. Instead of saving, they've gone out and bought a new $40k truck. Then they will use the excuse of, "I have nothing saved!" to justify their ridiculous excuse for not supporting a strike.

Bottom line, (I don't care whose toes I step on, it's true) there are a lot of stupid mechanics out there and intelligent people like us that are prepared and willing have a heavy bucket of water to carry up the hill for them.

Also don't forget there is always a never ending supply of mechanics willing to take your job especially in an economy like this..Most of them might even be former airline mechanics laid off from other carriers..But don't worry the company lapdog union you guys have will never take it to the street.
 

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