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There is still a lot of mistrust between the two groups. There have been instances where West f/a's have written up East f/a's and then you have the f/a's who have a personal "interest" in the ongoing seniority dispute with the pilots. There's also that misguided thought that a lot of East f/a's are going to transfer to PHX when the integration is complete. (I think we all know that there will be some but not the big numbers that some fear. We have too many high time, destination snobs on the East that are horrified to have to even think about working a domestic trip.)Why an awkward silence among the flight attendants? The pilots, I can understand. For them it would be more a silent seething.
Why are the F/As at odds?
Nine of the PHL destinations are T/A flying and can't be done out of PHX profitably.As much as I’m excited to see US expanding to ANC and other new destinations from the CLT/PHL bases, I have begun to see a pattern of overflying occur in the past 2-3 years. East-coast bases have gained a lot of flying in traditional “West†markets, such as HNL, ANC, TUS (no more), SMF, PDX, SAT, AUS to name a few. Sadly, I don’t see the same type of connectivity occurring in PHX. In fact, we’ve seen a decrease in PHX flying to ‘East’ cities, such as CLE, BDL, MIA, RDU, etc. I assumed post-merger that we would begin to see announcements like PHX-PVD, PHX-PBI, PHX-YUL, even PHX-FRA to name a few.
Sadly, now PHX is the smallest hub and the least profitable hub based on statistics/company publications. It appears as if PHL/CLT have been obtaining the ‘toys’ since the time of merger, and PHX has been sort of left out of the sandbox. PHX has not had a new destination since 2006 (CLT). (and I’m not really counting MBJ, since it was basically propped up by the Jamaican government) I certainly hope that this doesn’t turn into another story of a low-cost profitable West Coast airline that merged with a high cost East Coast airline and basically shut down as time went on because its combined costs were too high. (PSA, anyone?).
If US Airways wants to focus on its ‘core’, sometimes I get worried that the ‘core’ is somewhere between CLT/PHL and not really interested to keep its network presence in the West. In addition, most of the new aircraft deliveries (other than a handful of A321s out of PHX/LAS) have been based out of the PHL/CLT bases (A330-200s, E190s, ATA 757s).
Again, don’t want to start an E/W fight here, but just wondering if anyone had the same thoughts I’ve been observing.
New PHL destinations post-merger:
LIS
ARN (now cancelled)
ATH
TLV
GLA
BHM (now cancelled)
OSL
ANC
BRU
ZRH
PDX
SMF
New CLT destinations post-merger:
GIG
FCO
CDG
TUS (cancelled)
SMF
PDX
EYW
DAB
HNL
AUS
SAT
New PHX destinations post-merger:
MBJ
East-coast bases have gained a lot of flying in traditional “West†markets, such as HNL, ANC,
So you think direct flights between Charlotte (a city you never served) and Hawaii or Philadelphia direct Alaska are 'West' markets?
Could 762 make Anc from Clt?
As much as I’m excited to see US expanding to ANC and other new destinations from the CLT/PHL bases, I have begun to see a pattern of overflying occur in the past 2-3 years. East-coast bases have gained a lot of flying in traditional “West†markets, such as HNL, ANC, TUS (no more), SMF, PDX, SAT, AUS to name a few. Sadly, I don’t see the same type of connectivity occurring in PHX. In fact, we’ve seen a decrease in PHX flying to ‘East’ cities, such as CLE, BDL, MIA, RDU, etc. I assumed post-merger that we would begin to see announcements like PHX-PVD, PHX-PBI, PHX-YUL, even PHX-FRA to name a few.
Sadly, now PHX is the smallest hub and the least profitable hub based on statistics/company publications. It appears as if PHL/CLT have been obtaining the ‘toys’ since the time of merger, and PHX has been sort of left out of the sandbox. PHX has not had a new destination since 2006 (CLT). (and I’m not really counting MBJ, since it was basically propped up by the Jamaican government) I certainly hope that this doesn’t turn into another story of a low-cost profitable West Coast airline that merged with a high cost East Coast airline and basically shut down as time went on because its combined costs were too high. (PSA, anyone?).
If US Airways wants to focus on its ‘core’, sometimes I get worried that the ‘core’ is somewhere between CLT/PHL and not really interested to keep its network presence in the West. In addition, most of the new aircraft deliveries (other than a handful of A321s out of PHX/LAS) have been based out of the PHL/CLT bases (A330-200s, E190s, ATA 757s).
Again, don’t want to start an E/W fight here, but just wondering if anyone had the same thoughts I’ve been observing.
New PHL destinations post-merger:
LIS
ARN (now cancelled)
ATH
TLV
GLA
BHM (now cancelled)
OSL
ANC
BRU
ZRH
PDX
SMF
New CLT destinations post-merger:
GIG
FCO
CDG
TUS (cancelled)
SMF
PDX
EYW
DAB
HNL
AUS
SAT
New PHX destinations post-merger:
MBJ
TUS, SMF, PDF, DAB, AUS and SAT are not new to the EAST. We used to have great overnights in those cities. I think it's just re-entry to old marketsI guess Flying Point to Point from CLT, such as CLT-EWR is not NEW Flying for America West?
I guess Flying Point to Point from CLT, such as CLT-EWR is not NEW Flying for America West?